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Offline dewandgin

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2023, 12:34:49 PM »
No other game animal that I know of make people crazy like elk do

Not unheard of unfortunately.  Those people exist. Can't kill ther own they have to steal it from someone else. Goods friends of mine about 15 yes ago in Winston. 2 *censored*ty hunters couldn't track a cold had to steal a bull from a guy who worked his ass off to feed his family. Always carry a side arm and don't let people get away with crap like this.

That is very ironic as about that time frame ago my brother and I were hunting the Winston unit and we were walking though a logged area into a clear cut and a small herd busted out with one small bull. We shot the bull and then as we were gutting it a hunter approached us and asked why we were gutting his elk and explained he had shot it and showed hair that he had kept. We talked with him and asked him where and when he had shot it and we gutted the animal and the only bullet holes were from the opposite side and through the lungs/heart area and he had said he shot from the other side and a high shoulder shot. He even got a ride back to his vehicle and we ran into his dad later in the hunt and dad didn't realize who he was talking with and told of how his son had a elk stolen from him. Hope it wasn't the same incident. There can sometimes be two sides to every story.

I have had a deer taken from me after I shot it and watched it drop but the guy insisted it had stood up and ran to him. I didn't argue but it was laying in the same clearing I shot it.

Stay safe out there this hunting season guys and gals.

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2023, 01:00:15 PM »
happened to me, over a spike bull in the 360 Yakima unit.

6 Hispanics, one tagged my spike before I could get to it.

I shot at 200 yards, watched it go down.
Made sure it was down & dead, it was laying against a downed log.
Circled around the rockslide cliff to where I could hike down the 300 yards.
Reaching the lower ridgeline that leads down to the bull, heard a pistol shot then voices, Espanol echoing off the hillside.

I came up to the spike elk, still laying next to the downed log: "my bull..."
Didn't get to finish my words as one Hispanic guy moved his coat flap back, showing me his pistol. His hand ready to draw. That dark, deep look in his eyes. I noted what appeared to be prison tattoos on 3 of the other men's arms, necks too. Heck, 4 of them had what looked to be ancient firearms, like WW1 ancient.

I backed off quick, txt'd, radioed my buds  :(.
After talking with them, we realized nothing I could do  :bash:.
However, I circled uphill, around to the top of the rockslide, could see the 6 men below me processing the bull.....
...THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT. Counted my rounds.

F-it, hiked back to truck and drove back to camp.
Called in the incident to WDFW....nothing, no call back, no contact.

3 days later, shot and tagged a 2nd spike bull.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2023, 01:08:31 PM by MAVsled »

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2023, 01:44:38 PM »
Almost happened to my dad in the 60's up Naches. Almost. pops didnt back down and the guy took off. It can happen any where especially with an Elk

Never have understood why anyone would want some else's  Elk in the first place
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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2023, 02:49:17 PM »
Always immediately take the tongue of a downed animal and stick it in your pack. It would be somewhat difficult explaining to a game officer why "your" harvest has no tongue and the complainant possesses it.

New a guy that did this once. Got his elk back with the help of a warden that way.

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2023, 03:47:11 PM »
My dad’s best friend a shot a beautiful branch bull in the blues in the 80’s. Walked up to it and a guy had beat him to it. The guy pointed his rifle at my dad’s buddy and told him to get lost. Unfortunately for him, the memory of killing the biggest bull of his life is sadly tainted.


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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2023, 03:52:08 PM »
Elk make people crazy
Ugh
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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2023, 04:01:04 PM »
My two instances went as follows...

Shot buck
Tagged buck
Gutting buck ,seen the other hunter about 150 yards away , watching me. Said heck no ,called my buddy.
He took my buck and I to my truck.
And the tailgates lined right yup.

Other one same.
Shoot,tag,gut.
Except behind a gate.
I'd drag it a couple hundred yards, look back ,there he was watching me. Same drag,look back , watching me,and following me.
It took my buddy about an hour to show up with game cart.
So I did that for about an hour,cat and mouse.
Soon as my buddy showed up,he was gone. Surprising right.

As far as elk ,I've never harvested one.
So if I did,I'm not leaving without it,if possible.

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2023, 04:08:59 PM »
Thankfully and fortunately I hunt on my own property. My tolerance for that crap ended years ago after spending years of my life overseas. You take from me like this and threaten, you will be dead, that fast, with everybody else in your party. So, for anyone on this site that may think stealing an animal and threatening another hunter is ok, watch out. I can deal with the consequences of my actions. Just another memory to live with.

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2023, 06:35:43 PM »
That's a game they'd be sorry they tried to play with me....

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2023, 06:59:36 PM »
Always immediately take the tongue of a downed animal and stick it in your pack. It would be somewhat difficult explaining to a game officer why "your" harvest has no tongue and the complainant possesses it.

New a guy that did this once. Got his elk back with the help of a warden that way.

Paul?
HA!.. no, good guess tho.

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2023, 07:41:36 PM »
Always immediately take the tongue of a downed animal and stick it in your pack. It would be somewhat difficult explaining to a game officer why "your" harvest has no tongue and the complainant possesses it.

New a guy that did this once. Got his elk back with the help of a warden that way.

Paul?
HA!.. no, good guess tho.

He was gutting a bull on the west fork and had it stolen from him at gun point. I didn’t think he got it back though

Kinda crazy how many similar stories there are
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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2023, 08:24:29 PM »
Always immediately take the tongue of a downed animal and stick it in your pack. It would be somewhat difficult explaining to a game officer why "your" harvest has no tongue and the complainant possesses it.

If I ever have to leave an animal I’m definitely doing this. If I have someone or even a group ever try and take an animal from me may God have mercy on them…
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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2023, 08:29:28 PM »
The first branched bull I shot had a guy try to claim was his.  Tried to say he shot it first while drinking his coffee in his truck at first light.  Wasnt until he saw my dad un snap his pistol holster that his attitude changed.  He just saw a young kid and thought he could bully his way into an animal.   I have packed my own sidearm ever sense.   I just don't get why you would pick a fight where guns are present.  Sounds like an opportunity to meet your maker.

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2023, 08:33:24 PM »
As disgusting as it is, its also one of the stupidest things for people to die over. There are things I wouldnt hesitate to die for or take another persons life for. But it wouldnt be possesion of a deer or elk!

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Re: Elk taken from hunters at gun point?
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2023, 08:36:44 PM »
As disgusting as it is, its also one of the stupidest things for people to die over. There are things I wouldnt hesitate to die for or take another persons life for. But it wouldnt be possesion of a deer or elk!
I would like to think I wouldn’t either but in most of these situations the offender is the one that decides whether they are going to live or die that day not you. Whether I’m willing to give my animal up or not somebody comes at me pointing a firearm At me they better be ready. Because I’m sure as hell going to be. I only point guns at things for one reason and one reason only. I’m assuming they operate the same therefore they are threatening my life and it is now them or me. And like you said I’m sure as hell not dying over an animal

 


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