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Crazy🤯You still seeing deer there?
Washington, we have a problem!
I’d be inviting up some bear coyote and cougar huntersThin em out
Quote from: MADMAX on October 22, 2023, 07:05:11 PMI’d be inviting up some bear coyote and cougar huntersThin em outIt's thick country and not as easy as it sounds....We have had 8 hunters targeting bear this year and only managed to kill 4. Without the ability to bait or use hounds, they get wise in a hurry to human sent and stay in the thick stuff.
I think the predators have pushed a lot of animals down lower towards hwy 25. Kids saw both elk and moose down close to the lake where we've really never seen them before. We've got em down here, but I don't think as many as you have up higher. Pick up bear and cougars on the cameras around the house, but no wolves yet.( heck of a lot of skunks on the cameras this year)
Show us some deer if any are left
👍 thanks for sharing. Hopefully that helps some see that predators are one of our biggest issues concerning our deer herds, if not the number one issue.Once again thanks for posting.
Quote from: bigmacc on November 14, 2023, 08:49:39 AM👍 thanks for sharing. Hopefully that helps some see that predators are one of our biggest issues concerning our deer herds, if not the number one issue.Once again thanks for posting.This reminded me to update this thread with more pics. There is no shortage of predators.... I just don't understand how WDFW can continue to lie with the irrefutable evidence that cameras provide.
If you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.They were told 100% elk caves in Blues killed by cats. And they don’t care.It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen.
Quote from: ghosthunter on November 14, 2023, 11:18:51 AMIf you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.They were told 100% elk caves in Blues killed by cats. And they don’t care.It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen. totally agree, it has to be made public that is what the state is going to get more and more of, cats, wolves, and grizzlies, unless politicians are willing to support all users through a fair and balanced commission.
Quote from: bearpaw on November 14, 2023, 11:41:14 AMQuote from: ghosthunter on November 14, 2023, 11:18:51 AMIf you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.They were told 100% elk caves in Blues killed by cats. And they don’t care.It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen. totally agree, it has to be made public that is what the state is going to get more and more of, cats, wolves, and grizzlies, unless politicians are willing to support all users through a fair and balanced commission.I have a little different opinion as to what should be emphasized. We should not be telling everyone in the non-hunting public about more and more cats, wolves and grizzlies. We should be emphasizing the reduced numbers of ungulates. That may seem like a small point but who among these wildlife watchers we hear so much about doesn't like to see a herd of elk, a moose, a mountain goat, Bighorn Sheep or even a couple deer especially if one of them is sporting a nice set of antlers.Make the case the Commission is not managing wildlife in WA for abundance.
Quote from: Humptulips on November 14, 2023, 02:00:22 PMQuote from: bearpaw on November 14, 2023, 11:41:14 AMQuote from: ghosthunter on November 14, 2023, 11:18:51 AMIf you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.They were told 100% elk caves in Blues killed by cats. And they don’t care.It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen. totally agree, it has to be made public that is what the state is going to get more and more of, cats, wolves, and grizzlies, unless politicians are willing to support all users through a fair and balanced commission.I have a little different opinion as to what should be emphasized. We should not be telling everyone in the non-hunting public about more and more cats, wolves and grizzlies. We should be emphasizing the reduced numbers of ungulates. That may seem like a small point but who among these wildlife watchers we hear so much about doesn't like to see a herd of elk, a moose, a mountain goat, Bighorn Sheep or even a couple deer especially if one of them is sporting a nice set of antlers.Make the case the Commission is not managing wildlife in WA for abundance.Ok that sounds like a better plan!
Quote from: bearpaw on November 14, 2023, 02:41:37 PMQuote from: Humptulips on November 14, 2023, 02:00:22 PMQuote from: bearpaw on November 14, 2023, 11:41:14 AMQuote from: ghosthunter on November 14, 2023, 11:18:51 AMIf you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.They were told 100% elk caves in Blues killed by cats. And they don’t care.It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen. totally agree, it has to be made public that is what the state is going to get more and more of, cats, wolves, and grizzlies, unless politicians are willing to support all users through a fair and balanced commission.I have a little different opinion as to what should be emphasized. We should not be telling everyone in the non-hunting public about more and more cats, wolves and grizzlies. We should be emphasizing the reduced numbers of ungulates. That may seem like a small point but who among these wildlife watchers we hear so much about doesn't like to see a herd of elk, a moose, a mountain goat, Bighorn Sheep or even a couple deer especially if one of them is sporting a nice set of antlers.Make the case the Commission is not managing wildlife in WA for abundance.Ok that sounds like a better plan!It does,……..but if the whole idea of coddling predators is to do exactly that(reduce ungulate numbers then it may fall on def ears. Imo, this is just a small piece to a big puzzle and it all revolves around guns. It’s not going to happen tomarrow or even a decade from now but it will be a talking point soon, why do you need this gun now, why do you need that one and so on. Pretty soon it will be like Biden said to a bunch of voters “you don’t need anything more than a shotgun”. If they can dwindle what we hunt, if they can turn public sentiment to push an agenda, they will and they will take their time. Most anti hunters are also anti gun, not all but most. They will give up the chance of seeing a deer or elk or moose to get those nasty people packing those evil guns out of their places they like to walk, picnic and explore. It’s getting to the point that there is no room for us(hunters), no middle ground for some. They don’t want us there. They have the backing of big donors and they have a WDFW that has been politicized. I do like what ghost and Hump have said but it’s going to be an uphill climb. ghost, I’m leaning your direction.
Quote from: bigmacc on November 14, 2023, 03:03:05 PMQuote from: bearpaw on November 14, 2023, 02:41:37 PMQuote from: Humptulips on November 14, 2023, 02:00:22 PMQuote from: bearpaw on November 14, 2023, 11:41:14 AMQuote from: ghosthunter on November 14, 2023, 11:18:51 AMIf you listened to the Randy N. Pod cast with past game commission member Kim T. you would know the current Game Commission doesn’t care how many predators there are.They were told 100% elk caves in Blues killed by cats. And they don’t care.It’s time to give up all the common sense ideas, because they could care less. Until concerns over Game Commission ignoring staff advice become a political hot potato nothing will change.The Game Commission should be brought up at every political event in the State. Anyone running for any office needs to hear and be questioned on what they will do to correct the off the rails ,bigoted Game Commission.Until they become afraid that the Commission might cost them votes nothing will happen. totally agree, it has to be made public that is what the state is going to get more and more of, cats, wolves, and grizzlies, unless politicians are willing to support all users through a fair and balanced commission.I have a little different opinion as to what should be emphasized. We should not be telling everyone in the non-hunting public about more and more cats, wolves and grizzlies. We should be emphasizing the reduced numbers of ungulates. That may seem like a small point but who among these wildlife watchers we hear so much about doesn't like to see a herd of elk, a moose, a mountain goat, Bighorn Sheep or even a couple deer especially if one of them is sporting a nice set of antlers.Make the case the Commission is not managing wildlife in WA for abundance.Ok that sounds like a better plan!It does,……..but if the whole idea of coddling predators is to do exactly that(reduce ungulate numbers then it may fall on def ears. Imo, this is just a small piece to a big puzzle and it all revolves around guns. It’s not going to happen tomarrow or even a decade from now but it will be a talking point soon, why do you need this gun now, why do you need that one and so on. Pretty soon it will be like Biden said to a bunch of voters “you don’t need anything more than a shotgun”. If they can dwindle what we hunt, if they can turn public sentiment to push an agenda, they will and they will take their time. Most anti hunters are also anti gun, not all but most. They will give up the chance of seeing a deer or elk or moose to get those nasty people packing those evil guns out of their places they like to walk, picnic and explore. It’s getting to the point that there is no room for us(hunters), no middle ground for some. They don’t want us there. They have the backing of big donors and they have a WDFW that has been politicized. I do like what ghost and Hump have said but it’s going to be an uphill climb. ghost, I’m leaning your direction.Good point BigmaccAnd I agree it very well may be a back door anti gun movement and if it isn’t it could become that.But we got to start fighting back some where. Votes is all they care about and we should be making the current Game Commission a liability to anyone running for office who supports them.
