Outdoor life - What Happens When Anti-Hunters Join game commission

[Wad-Cutter]

OK, I think you no votes have won me over.  When I really think it through, I agree the opposition is just too good at the ballot box to leave every round of commissioner appointments up to a vote.  I'm personally gonna drop it after this.

I still say that relying on our ability to somehow improve outcomes by working within the status quo, and just "bringing awareness" is going to end very badly for hunters.  The anecdotal evidence I see suggests there is not a net increase in people who hunt, or who tend to sympathize with hunting, that are moving into this State.  They seem to be more-often moving out of the State.  And, I think the recent trend in politics suggest that relying on the ballot box to get a better Governor, and through that, better appointments, is a bad strategy.

I don't know about this State specifically, and I don't know how true it is nationally, but I've heard it said that something like 70-77% of people have a generally favorable view of hunting, but that survey declines a little every time it's taken.  So, before it falls too low, we'd better craft something that leverages that generally-positive view into something that puts a stop to all this nonsense.

I'm out of good ideas this morning (or didn't have one in the first place), but someone smarter than me better figure this out.

...cheers.

[GOcougsHunter]

OK, I think you no votes have won me over.  When I really think it through, I agree the opposition is just too good at the ballot box to leave every round of commissioner appointments up to a vote.  I'm personally gonna drop it after this.

I still say that relying on our ability to somehow improve outcomes by working within the status quo, and just "bringing awareness" is going to end very badly for hunters.  The anecdotal evidence I see suggests there is not a net increase in people who hunt, or who tend to sympathize with hunting, that are moving into this State.  They seem to be more-often moving out of the State.  And, I think the recent trend in politics suggest that relying on the ballot box to get a better Governor, and through that, better appointments, is a bad strategy.

I don't know about this State specifically, and I don't know how true it is nationally, but I've heard it said that something like 70-77% of people have a generally favorable view of hunting, but that survey declines a little every time it's taken.  So, before it falls too low, we'd better craft something that leverages that generally-positive view into something that puts a stop to all this nonsense.

I'm out of good ideas this morning (or didn't have one in the first place), but someone smarter than me better figure this out.

...cheers.

I think it is really good to talk about all options (plusses and minuses) and continue to debate them.  Keep throwing ideas out there and let everyone vet them.  I have few answers but actively do everything I can to advocate for our way of life.  I am not going to give up on this state and will participate in all facets of policy making and activities supporting hunting and fishing into the future even when it may seem bleak.  I owe it to my kids.

[Firstgenhunter]

OK, I think you no votes have won me over.  When I really think it through, I agree the opposition is just too good at the ballot box to leave every round of commissioner appointments up to a vote.  I'm personally gonna drop it after this.

I still say that relying on our ability to somehow improve outcomes by working within the status quo, and just "bringing awareness" is going to end very badly for hunters.  The anecdotal evidence I see suggests there is not a net increase in people who hunt, or who tend to sympathize with hunting, that are moving into this State.  They seem to be more-often moving out of the State.  And, I think the recent trend in politics suggest that relying on the ballot box to get a better Governor, and through that, better appointments, is a bad strategy.

I don't know about this State specifically, and I don't know how true it is nationally, but I've heard it said that something like 70-77% of people have a generally favorable view of hunting, but that survey declines a little every time it's taken.  So, before it falls too low, we'd better craft something that leverages that generally-positive view into something that puts a stop to all this nonsense.

I'm out of good ideas this morning (or didn't have one in the first place), but someone smarter than me better figure this out.

...cheers.

I think it is really good to talk about all options (plusses and minuses) and continue to debate them.  Keep throwing ideas out there and let everyone vet them.  I have few answers but actively do everything I can to advocate for our way of life.  I am not going to give up on this state and will participate in all facets of policy making and activities supporting hunting and fishing into the future even when it may seem bleak.  I owe it to my kids.

Amen brother, right there beside you!

[RC]

Speaking of the commission, where are things at right now?  Been pretty quiet since the October meeting.  What's the next step?  What's the time line for any sort of season decisions to be made?  Any upcoming meetings to be aware of?

[Firstgenhunter]

Speaking of the commission, where are things at right now?  Been pretty quiet since the October meeting.  What's the next step?  What's the time line for any sort of season decisions to be made?  Any upcoming meetings to be aware of?

I don't know if you are on insta but the coalition posted some next steps to facebook and insta. The preservation policy will have an update soon. Either end of year or next year. The GMP will have an update next year as well. The next meeting is on zoom fully on December 14th, 15th and 16th. a decision will be made on the Black bear cr-102. The commission will have a briefing on rules of procedure, not sure what that means. The BIG thing we all need to pay attention to is the anti hunter petition. This would shorten cougar and bear seasons, shorten bag limits among other things. This is word for word what Lorna Smith and Melanie Rowland wants. It was made by WWF and all of the others. I will make a full post here on what's coming up. We ALL need to email the commission about this, this is the first step towards banning predator hunting. It's going to be spring bear all over again.

Get involved with the legislature, let them know what's going on. I have about 20 emails for those to reach out to. Besides the December meeting, things are going to be quiet. The reason why its on zoom is so no one has to travel. The next commission meeting isn't until end of January. The big sportsmen groups are probably going to go quiet until next year, so will the commission and antis. The coalition will have content put out soon. We all need to stay involved.

Mark your calendars for Thursday January 11th, 2024, Centralia, WA at the Southwest Washington fairgrounds. Sportsmen’s Alliance will be doing another event with auctions of gear, even some big hunting and fishing trips. This is a free event for families, food trucks will be onsite along with drinks. Proceeds for the fundraiser are going directly to the legal and legislative battles against the commission to stop the anti-hunting movement.
More information will come soon but this will be a very fun event. We are looking for donations for the auctions (live and silent) for the event. Contact us, Joel Swecker, or Steve Bell for ideas, items, and contacts for the event. Share the heck out of this, this is going to be one massive event!! HUGE shoutouts to Sportsmen Alliance for doing this, proud to see you guys taking the lead in the fight to save our heritage and we are proud to fight beside you. Another HUGE shoutout to Joel Swecker and Steve Bell for helping put this event together and bring it to fruition. This is a coalition member-collaborated event. Hope to see you there!! Remember to mark your calendars!!

[KNOPHISH]

It’s just so disgusting they take season directions from WWF and anti hunting orgs and not biologist, hunters and the North American model.