WFWD Report on Courgars and Bears

[pickardjw]

Just look at California, they're still killing cougars. These same groups are continuing the fight to end all cougar deaths. They just collect more money and shift the target. According to their websites now the targets are roads and depredation permits. We're supposed to believe they're just concerned about bag limits. Right...

California is actually killing twice as many cougars now as they were before the hunting ban went into effect.

Is there an article or data on that? I always hear about California and government paid sharpshooters but never found anything written on it.

[stickbuck]

California sees a decent number of cats killed in vehicle collisions. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 per year along with about the same number killed because of them preying on livestock. California still has a very large population of cats. Read reports of disease and inbreeding, but the antis will never admit it that it is a result of them being overpopulated. They merely say that the disease, vehicle collisions and inbreeding are a direct result of all the housing growth and road building. We all know what the real problem is. You can’t have a population of 10 thousand cats and then have the people of California complain about less than 200 cats being killed each year. People are being led to believe that this drop of 200 each year is going to lead to their extinction in the state of California in the next 40-50 years. Sorry, this doesn’t compute. 


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[ducks4days]

Just look at California, they're still killing cougars. These same groups are continuing the fight to end all cougar deaths. They just collect more money and shift the target. According to their websites now the targets are roads and depredation permits. We're supposed to believe they're just concerned about bag limits. Right...

California is actually killing twice as many cougars now as they were before the hunting ban went into effect.

Is there an article or data on that? I always hear about California and government paid sharpshooters but never found anything written on it.

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=177513&inline - 2011-2020
https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=177512&inline - 2001-2010

It fluctuates year to year, with a high of 334 and an average floating around 200
The last year cougar was legal to hunt in california (1971), a total of 118 were harvested. You need to go back to the 40's, about 25 years before they ended the bounty program, to start hitting similar numbers. Im pretty sure methods of take during that time included baiting, trapping, and poisoning, which is wildly more effective than just about any other method of take.

[Special T]

In district 1 NE corner more cats are killed with depredations permits than boot hunters, I belive by over 30% more