Second Rut Good/Bad/ugly

[hunter399]

I thought this video was interesting,plus hits home on some levels and factors that are happening to Washington deer herds.
My opinion.

Just sharing,that's all.

[chukarchaser]

Thanks for sharing

[hunter399]

I've noticed a second Rut in Washington since I was 12 years old.
So that speaks volumes after watching the video.

[OutHouse]

Had no idea about this. Thanks for sharing!

[huntnnw]

All my years bowhunting late whitetails or just running cams in general it’s rare and something I’d never bank on

[grimace]

I watched 2 bucks chasing does last week in the NE corner.

[Southpole]

I had a little spike hound doggin’ last week through our yard.

[hunter399]

Another good point in the video.
Was having fawns all dropped at the same time.
Flooding predators with fawns means they can't kill them all.
Late born fawns won't reach maturity,to breed in the fall.

Everything with fawns I believe is the key to rebuilding a healthy herd.

[bhammac]

Light rattled and bleated two blacktail bucks in last week that were really curious....made me a believer of the second rut.

[Rainier10]

I had a buck glued to a doe this weekend. Never saw him do the deed but he really wanted to, he just kept following her nose to tail. Mule deer.

[boneaddict]

I've seen it a couple times this late I guess.   A couple bucks near Thorp were the latest and that was on New years eve.   (muledeer).    I found where two whities sparred and got bloodied up during Christmas break many years ago while I was duck hunting on the Methow.   

[bankwalker]

Funny seeing this posted. I just watched 2 big blacktails chasing a very young doe around a clear-cut for about 20 minutes on Saturday. Made me really think hard about this video. And looking back through time how many times I've seen late season rut activities. And most times it's always a young doe being the target

[boneaddict]

I suppose its perpetual up until the point mother nature allows survival.   Late fawns will come into estrous later and cause more later fawns.....

[kodiak06]

I've never referred to it as a second rut, it's simply deer breeding when the does come back in to estrous after not being bred the first cycle. I grew up in Bama with 1.2 million deer and hunted Michigan in the 90s for 5 yrs with a herd of over 1 million back then. The bucks can't breed all the does the first cycle in a lot of the areas simply due to the buck to doe ratios.  Elk do the same thing breeding 2nd cycle cows.

[nwwanderer]

No second rut, if it stands still it gets attention.  As mentioned, fawns and calves cycle as they mature giving late born, poor survival offspring.  More WT than BT or mule and elk have the fewest cycling calves.  Saw a doe this summer that had lost a fawn to coyotes showing signs of cycling, a buck was with her, have no idea if she settled.  March born fawn has near zero chance.

[hunter399]

Too early/too late it happens.
Buck to doe ratios,can't really change that.
Maybe if you own a deer farm,or high fence ranch.