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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #675 on: July 17, 2023, 10:38:33 PM »
Is There an Ulterior Motive Behind the Fed’s Proposal to Reintroduce Grizzlies in Washington State?

https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/north-cascades-grizzly-bear-reintroduction/

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #676 on: July 18, 2023, 08:56:05 AM »
I'll be honest, this is a 46 page thread and I haven't read all of it. That being said, this is far more nuanced than just ESA good or ESA bad. I think it's of utmost importance that we protect native species of all kinds not just limited to game animals. For some strange reason, the American dream involves bulldozing land and planting turf grasses that require daily watering and weekly mowing. I would always rather see a diverse landscape with native species than a golf course with carp in the ponds, starlings in the trees, and a monoculture of high maintenance grass. It's un-American to tell someone what to do with their land, but for America to remain beautiful we need to protect and enhance our native wildlife habitat as best as we can. If a native species is in danger of extinction, yes we need to protect it and preserve it's environment. This is one of the reasons I can't stand organizations like the Center for Biological Diversity or the humane society because they says their focus os on these issues, when in practice they blow all their money on lawsuits  to end hunting of species that are not even close to endangered. They could be spending money on increasing biodiversity, but instead they line the pockets of lawyers and politicians and gridlock the hunting of species that they think are cute.

Sorry for the rant. Kill your lawn and plant natives.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #677 on: July 18, 2023, 09:07:55 AM »
I'll be honest, this is a 46 page thread and I haven't read all of it. That being said, this is far more nuanced than just ESA good or ESA bad. I think it's of utmost importance that we protect native species of all kinds not just limited to game animals. For some strange reason, the American dream involves bulldozing land and planting turf grasses that require daily watering and weekly mowing. I would always rather see a diverse landscape with native species than a golf course with carp in the ponds, starlings in the trees, and a monoculture of high maintenance grass. It's un-American to tell someone what to do with their land, but for America to remain beautiful we need to protect and enhance our native wildlife habitat as best as we can. If a native species is in danger of extinction, yes we need to protect it and preserve it's environment. This is one of the reasons I can't stand organizations like the Center for Biological Diversity or the humane society because they says their focus os on these issues, when in practice they blow all their money on lawsuits  to end hunting of species that are not even close to endangered. They could be spending money on increasing biodiversity, but instead they line the pockets of lawyers and politicians and gridlock the hunting of species that they think are cute.

Sorry for the rant. Kill your lawn and plant natives.

Organizations like those you mentioned don't care about anything but ending hunting. They don't care about the wolves or the grizzlies, the elk, the deer, etc. They'd like to see ungulate populations plummet to further their goals.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #678 on: July 18, 2023, 12:47:26 PM »

She said they had numerous bears around and they were getting bold. One of them chased her cat into the house. The door was shut and the cat went in the small cat/dog door. The black bear tried to break the door down. When it could not get past the door, it stuck its paw in the little door and raked the inside of the door gouging claw marks all over it. They stood there and watched it just a few feet away.

That was a problem screaming for a solution in the form of a large meat cleaver.

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