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Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« on: December 23, 2023, 05:08:26 AM »
Wow- Cummins is paying the feds a fine of $1.6B for cheating on the emissions of the engines in Ram trucks, nearly a million of them since 2013.  The same thing as Volkswagen & the Ecodiesel hey used to use in the 1500s & jeeps. Ram wasn’t involved in it but they’re the ones who’ll have to do the recall that’s coming. Volkswagen had to buy tons of cars back & the vehicles with he ecodiesel were almost unusable after the recall. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Definitely will be going to court with Ram.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/cummins-take-about-204-bln-charge-fourth-quarter-2023-12-22/?ref=upstract.com

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2023, 08:14:13 AM »
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.
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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2023, 08:31:36 AM »
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.

I don’t think Cummins made the eco diesel but I could be wrong

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2023, 09:03:12 AM »
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.

I don’t think Cummins made the eco diesel but I could be wrong

You're right, I can't remember the main manufacturer but it wasn't Cummins and a few batches were Maserati.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2023, 09:25:41 AM »
Just another example of Federal regs doing harm to everyone!!  Control Control Control is all it is!!  Wake up people!!

Cummin's has been fined in the Billions for "supposedly" doing the same thing VW got nailed with!  Polluting the air causing climate change!!  Ya can't fix stupid, especially if there is taxes/fines to be had!!! :bash:
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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2023, 09:50:17 AM »
The ecodiesel was an Italian engine. I saw the reference to it on a different news piece.  I don’t remember which years of them were affected

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2023, 10:53:27 AM »
Fiat?

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2023, 01:44:00 PM »
What about all the ones we as consumers deleted ourselves  :chuckle:

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2023, 01:54:50 PM »
"What about all the ones we as consumers deleted ourselves"  :chuckle:

According to the article I read, its still Cummin's fault!  Typical government stooge way of thinking!
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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2023, 01:57:15 PM »
Had a few ecodiesels - that lawsuit was a couple years back. 

Looks like it followed all the diesel makers - what a crock!

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2023, 05:02:28 PM »
Look at the warm weather we are having.
How dare you have a warm winter.
Sure the animals are loving this climate change right now.

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2023, 05:24:43 PM »
Poor Greta needs to talk to WDFW about science :chuckle:
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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2023, 07:59:57 PM »
Poor Greta needs to talk to WDFW about science :chuckle:
I think she already has..... lol  :chuckle:
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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2023, 08:52:44 PM »
My '18 is on the recall list. I believe it's just the HO engines but not 100% sure. I doubt I'll be in a hurry to let Ram touch it. Truck runs just fine as is.

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2023, 08:56:15 PM »
There is nothing eco friendly about my truck and I could care less.

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2023, 10:10:01 PM »
The 3.0 Ram Ecodiesel was built by VM Motori.
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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2023, 10:22:10 AM »
There is nothing eco friendly about my truck and I could care less.

I was thinking exactly that. None of my trucks are but none of them are new enough to have any emissions trash in them 👍

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Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2023, 01:37:27 PM »
There is nothing eco friendly about my truck and I could care less.

I was thinking exactly that. None of my trucks are but none of them are new enough to have any emissions trash in them 👍
The eco friendly part is that they havent had to make a new one to replace it! See! You are both eco greenies!  :chuckle:

 


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