Zeiss vs. Nightforce SHV

[Mtnwalker]

I personally am not a big fan of my v4. Haven't gone NF yet because of the weight, but I think it's inevitable. Other option might be a Trijicon tenmile

[gutsnthegrass]

I personally am not a big fan of my v4. Haven't gone NF yet because of the weight, but I think it's inevitable. Other option might be a Trijicon tenmile

Mind me asking what you don’t like about the V4? I have gone through a lot of reviews and yours is the first one I’ve seen that is negative.

[pickardjw]

I have both. Zeiss V4 4-16 and SHV 5-20x56. Obviously the Zeiss is lighter in this application but I prefer the Zeiss over the SHV because the turret clicks are much sharper, the zero stop seems to be a bit better to me, and the Zeiss has 20 MOA of travel in one full turn of the turret where the SHV only has 10 MOA. I Would say the clarity is pretty close on both.

I'll probably trade out the SHV for a V4 6-24x50 eventually to shave some weight and also gain those same benefits I've really started to like in my V4.

Wow, I had no idea there was that big of a difference in erector travel per turret revolution.

I like the v4 4-16x44, got it from Redhawk as a demo model for a solid discount. I'm planning on doing some zero retention testing on it this summer. If the scope fails I'll put it on a trainer rifle and replace with a NF, Trijicon Credo or Tenmile, or the new Maven RS1.2.

This new Maven is getting some overwhelmingly positive reviews.

https://mavenbuilt.com/collections/riflescopes/products/rs1-2-2-5-15x44-ffp

[Mtnwalker]

I personally am not a big fan of my v4. Haven't gone NF yet because of the weight, but I think it's inevitable. Other option might be a Trijicon tenmile

Mind me asking what you don’t like about the V4? I have gone through a lot of reviews and yours is the first one I’ve seen that is negative.

There's nothing in particular that is bad, the overall package is just very mediocre for me. I could take it or leave it, good for the price I guess. I don't like the big fat crosshair. The focus is very finicky for me (no, not the parallax) I have a hard time getting a clear picture of the target and the crosshair at the same time. Everybody says they love the glass in the Zeiss but my old non-hd vx6 is heads and tails above the v4 for my eyes. Tracking appears to be pretty good but zero retention is questionable. Clicks are ok not great, the light weight is nice. This weekend we were shooting 1100 and the NX8 on 16 power seemed equal to the Zeiss on 24 power as far as zoom goes. Side by side on 24x it wasn't even close, which I wouldn't expect it to be but still. If I were to do the v4 over again I think I'd go with the 4-16 instead but I have no plans on purchasing another

[delmar90]

I have both. Zeiss V4 4-16 and SHV 5-20x56. Obviously the Zeiss is lighter in this application but I prefer the Zeiss over the SHV because the turret clicks are much sharper, the zero stop seems to be a bit better to me, and the Zeiss has 20 MOA of travel in one full turn of the turret where the SHV only has 10 MOA. I Would say the clarity is pretty close on both.

I'll probably trade out the SHV for a V4 6-24x50 eventually to shave some weight and also gain those same benefits I've really started to like in my V4.

I like the idea of the weight savings for sure. I would be looking at the 6-24x50 myself.

Your not comparing apples to apples.....If you want the V6 then you should be looking at a comparably price scope in the nightforce line.  V6 would be comparable to the NX8 both in magnification and cost.  The V6 and NX8 are not on the same playing field as the SHV line. 

V6 27.9 ounces for the 5-30 x 50mm      Cost is roughly $2200
NX8 28.9 ounces for the 4-32 x 50mm    Cost is roughly $2200

These are apples to apples.  Go find a store or person that will let you look at them to see what your eyes like better.

You are right, but the 6-24x50 I was referring to is part of the V4 line, not the V6 line. So it puts it at a similar price point to the SHVs. Just wanted to clear that up.