More special privileges

[JJJ]

Do you think they chased elk in that area 80 yrs ago with four wheel drive vehicles on their hunt? I don't think so. So it's not ancestral.

.... the ancestors must be incredibly proud.-------


Isnt there a strict speed limit, and NEVER leave the roadway on the Hanford site? Correct me if Im wrong (?) but Ive heard yer buttocks was in a sling if you did either of those..?..... .... Yet another example of a self inflicting black eye to their culture. There are always good and bad eggs in every basket....I appreciate the positive things the tribes do for fisheries, etc. But, as always, it takes a few (or sometimes many) that ruin it for the rest of us. That's why we can't chew gum in school, boys and girls....

Will ALL Washington citizens be offered the chance to defend and keep OUR cultural rights, or do they not matter? Many of us have hunting as part of our culture that goes back generations in this state....

[storyteller]

Try Googling " Treaty of 1855",  it is an eye opener if you never  have.

What did the Treaty of 1855 do?
The Treaty Period - Nez Perce National Historical Park (U.S. ...
After more than a week of tense negotiations, the nimíipuu agreed to cede 7.5 million acres of tribal land while still retaining the right to hunt and fish in their "usual and accustomed places". The Treaty of 1855 was ratified by the US Senate in 1859.

[JimmyHoffa]

Ahhh, just like traditional ways….  🤮

  I am trying to refrain from posting on this matter

Where does it say tribes are bound by methods previously used? I always find this claim amongst the more odd. I believe much of the discussion during the negotiations were quite the contrary.  Including being able to travel to hunt.

It's what the lefty, city crowd imagines what happens. For fishing, too. Seriously, people I know in Seattle think tribes are out in buckskins with bows and think I'm carrying a jug of whiskey and driving deer with fire, because y'know Bambi.

[Bearrunner96]

The beat way to stop or change this bs is to make it public and call your representatives. They try to make it seem like our voice doesn't matter but when enough of us step up and say something that is when change can potentially happen. Dan newhouse had commented on this issue stating that the mountain should be open to all public not just one party.
This is a true slaughter of this heard and if it's not stopped or changed there won't be a herd to manage, especially the way the tribes treat all the other populations. I've talked to several indians that get excited just seeing a track on the res. I personally have called and emailed representatives. Will it help just me calling? Probably not, but it is the best way to try and change this slaughter. If anything make it permit Or a lottery and the state would make a ton of money from this instead of the tribe driving all over an ecological preserve damaging vegetation.

[MAVsled]

Last elk habitat the Yaks can easily harvest/kill elk.

they've done enough damage to GMU's 346-342-360-352-368
While hunting late season archery mule deer in 2017-2019, I'll never forget the 2 flatbed trucks driving by camp with 4+ dead elk piled on.
Observed this each evening for 4 days as we sat by the campfire.
Listened to Yaks shoot multiple times in 342-346. One morning, watched thru binocs as they winched dead elk uphill to their flatbed truck.
Our final count, over 6 days we were camped, was 19 elk killed. Who knows how many we didn't see on trucks?!! 

Watch for "ceremonial" elk meat sale soon in Craigslist etc.

[JakeLand]

Hopefully the rights held by tribes influence a truly disruptive and extremely biased policy body at the wdfw to perpetuate the consumptive use of natural resources to benefit all.

hell yes I hope so !

[trophyhunt]

Last elk habitat the Yaks can easily harvest/kill elk.

they've done enough damage to GMU's 346-342-360-352-368
While hunting late season archery mule deer in 2017-2019, I'll never forget the 2 flatbed trucks driving by camp with 4+ dead elk piled on.
Observed this each evening for 4 days as we sat by the campfire.
Listened to Yaks shoot multiple times in 342-346. One morning, watched thru binocs as they winched dead elk uphill to their flatbed truck.
Our final count, over 6 days we were camped, was 19 elk killed. Who knows how many we didn't see on trucks?!! 

Watch for "ceremonial" elk meat sale soon in Craigslist etc.

you forgot to add the alkali unit, the natives took that mule deer herd down big time!! 

[fishngamereaper]

I get the treaty rights, ceremonial, subsistence etc. But just say we are going to hunt elk because we can and no one can stop us....
And go out,  harvest first available and be done..
Bad time of year to be running elk. Especially bulls trying to fatten up for winter. And why does it seem like most of the harvest is mid 300 class bulls. Is it a requirement or greed.

And hopefully they learned about driving on native soils. Didn't Delbert end up being found guilty a few years back with a truck load of bulls driving on ALE lands in Hanford.

[LDennis24]

Yes he was

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yakimaherald.com/news/local/tribal-member-king-mountain-owner-ordered-to-pay-34-125-for-off-roading-on-hanford/article_c25e94c6-2770-11e5-8d74-5ff501d4431e.amp.html

[MeepDog]

There would be more elk to hunt on the Yakama rez if they shot those skinny horses that are ruining all the forage. 

The Hanford herd has been over population objective for a long time and I'm glad there's some sort of step towards management other than giving out landowner tags to people who don't allow public access. That being said, over harvest would be a major mismanagement and clearly allowing offroading has terrible optics (which they probably aren't and that looks like a parking lot). I'm hoping that this stirs up the herd and allows them to disperse further.

They should allow an archery tag inside the fence. That would be crazy sought after.

[Whitefoot]

I'm confused.  I thought the elk that live in that area we "off limits" to all because of the nuke plant?  Is that not right? Figured it to be some national security thing or safety?

They want them reduced in there!

[Swervingtrouts]

Well does someone have any photos of the bulls they killed yet? There's has to be a truck driving around Wapato/ Toppenish by now with 3 or 4 racks out the back and huge "Air Jordan" sticker on the window.

[Whitefoot]

The beat way to stop or change this bs is to make it public and call your representatives. They try to make it seem like our voice doesn't matter but when enough of us step up and say something that is when change can potentially happen. Dan newhouse had commented on this issue stating that the mountain should be open to all public not just one party.
This is a true slaughter of this heard and if it's not stopped or changed there won't be a herd to manage, especially the way the tribes treat all the other populations. I've talked to several indians that get excited just seeing a track on the res. I personally have called and emailed representatives. Will it help just me calling? Probably not, but it is the best way to try and change this slaughter. If anything make it permit Or a lottery and the state would make a ton of money from this instead of the tribe driving all over an ecological preserve damaging vegetation.

lol

[Whitefoot]

Last elk habitat the Yaks can easily harvest/kill elk.

they've done enough damage to GMU's 346-342-360-352-368
While hunting late season archery mule deer in 2017-2019, I'll never forget the 2 flatbed trucks driving by camp with 4+ dead elk piled on.
Observed this each evening for 4 days as we sat by the campfire.
Listened to Yaks shoot multiple times in 342-346. One morning, watched thru binocs as they winched dead elk uphill to their flatbed truck.
Our final count, over 6 days we were camped, was 19 elk killed. Who knows how many we didn't see on trucks?!! 

Watch for "ceremonial" elk meat sale soon in Craigslist etc.

Did you even hunt? 

[Whitefoot]

Well does someone have any photos of the bulls they killed yet? There's has to be a truck driving around Wapato/ Toppenish by now with 3 or 4 racks out the back and huge "Air Jordan" sticker on the window.

WOW!