More special privileges

[trophyhunt]

The beat way to stop or change this bs is to make it public and call your representatives. They try to make it seem like our voice doesn't matter but when enough of us step up and say something that is when change can potentially happen. Dan newhouse had commented on this issue stating that the mountain should be open to all public not just one party.
This is a true slaughter of this heard and if it's not stopped or changed there won't be a herd to manage, especially the way the tribes treat all the other populations. I've talked to several indians that get excited just seeing a track on the res. I personally have called and emailed representatives. Will it help just me calling? Probably not, but it is the best way to try and change this slaughter. If anything make it permit Or a lottery and the state would make a ton of money from this instead of the tribe driving all over an ecological preserve damaging vegetation.

lol

how is it funny? Your ancestors would shake there heads at how disrespectful you are. I know mine would if I did the same thing you are doing to others

he’s a troll, just shows up to show off his 400” colokum bull and poke fun when we are frustrated with more native abuse.

Or maybe he reads about offroading causing damage and wiping out the herd, and wonders what I wonder:

Do you have any proof at all That they are doing damage by offroading on areas they are not supposed to drive?
I heard that they stayed on road and butchered in the field, but what do I know.

Do you have any idea at all how many elk were taken?
I'm curious why Bearrunner96 calls it a slaughter, and claims the herd will be wiped out.
Actual data would be good.

And getting excited over seeing an elk track on the rez?   Really?

Maybe, just maybe, his LOL was in exasperation at made up assertions.


And for the record, I want to hunt there as much as anyone.
Treaty Rights always bring out emotion, and I get it.   Me too.
I don't love the whole messy situation.
But those treaty Rights were negotiated with our government.
And throwing out hearsay doesn't help.

Well said. 

or maybe this guy kills more bulls in a year than most will in a lifetime, but go ahead and kiss his butt even more. He lol’s even more when non natives back up his BS. You win on this site Aaron, wokeness is spreading like wildfire!! 

[trophyhunt]

Scary part is Jerry that in a few years the tribes will be the only hunters legally hunting in Washington state! Take that to the bank

We might not agree with their treaty rights but we would be way better off trying to find common ground with the tribes. 

common ground Mike? Wtf is that? You think the tribes give 2 chits about your or your kids hunting RIGHTS?  C’mon man.  And yes, we non natives have hunting rights, it’s not a privilege, it’s God given rights.  If it comes down to hunting being illegal for non natives… well, you know.

[Dan-o]

The beat way to stop or change this bs is to make it public and call your representatives. They try to make it seem like our voice doesn't matter but when enough of us step up and say something that is when change can potentially happen. Dan newhouse had commented on this issue stating that the mountain should be open to all public not just one party.
This is a true slaughter of this heard and if it's not stopped or changed there won't be a herd to manage, especially the way the tribes treat all the other populations. I've talked to several indians that get excited just seeing a track on the res. I personally have called and emailed representatives. Will it help just me calling? Probably not, but it is the best way to try and change this slaughter. If anything make it permit Or a lottery and the state would make a ton of money from this instead of the tribe driving all over an ecological preserve damaging vegetation.

lol

how is it funny? Your ancestors would shake there heads at how disrespectful you are. I know mine would if I did the same thing you are doing to others

he’s a troll, just shows up to show off his 400” colokum bull and poke fun when we are frustrated with more native abuse.

Or maybe he reads about offroading causing damage and wiping out the herd, and wonders what I wonder:

Do you have any proof at all That they are doing damage by offroading on areas they are not supposed to drive?
I heard that they stayed on road and butchered in the field, but what do I know.

Do you have any idea at all how many elk were taken?
I'm curious why Bearrunner96 calls it a slaughter, and claims the herd will be wiped out.
Actual data would be good.

And getting excited over seeing an elk track on the rez?   Really?

Maybe, just maybe, his LOL was in exasperation at made up assertions.


And for the record, I want to hunt there as much as anyone.
Treaty Rights always bring out emotion, and I get it.   Me too.
I don't love the whole messy situation.
But those treaty Rights were negotiated with our government.
And throwing out hearsay doesn't help.

Well said. 

or maybe this guy kills more bulls in a year than most will in a lifetime, but go ahead and kiss his butt even more. He lol’s even more when non natives back up his BS. You win on this site Aaron, wokeness is spreading like wildfire!!

I asked straightforward questions:

* Do you have any proof that they offroaded?
* Do you have any direct knowledge of how many animals were taken to back up the allegation of wiping out the herd?
* Would anyone be excited by an elk track on the reservation?

Why not simply answer my questions?
Why the need to call names and throw out insults?

The topic of this thread was the recent Hanford hunt, not a bunch of bulls someone shot.
I don't know why you feel the need to drag that into this thread, when he said he wasn't even part of this hunt.

So, will you answer direct questions, or only throw out insults?

[trophyhunt]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

[Platensek-po]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Dang dude you sound jealous.

[Dan-o]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Read the context.
Bearrunner96 made the allegations.
Whitefoot LOL'd.
You called him a troll.
I asked for proof of the allegations.
You sling insults.

I just want facts and data.

Facts and data might help with a discussion.

Slinging insults will only cut off conversation.

And I've never met Aaron.    Have no intention to meet him or try to gain a hunt.   Your insinuation is just baseless.

[trophyhunt]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Dang dude you sound jealous.

you can do better than that man, that jealous claim is like the last bs comment you have when you know someone speaks the truth.  What’s funny is, if you hunted by our rules, lol, you’d starve to death! Not even close to jealous about your skills with hunting, just amazed how good you think you are with having a season that never ends with no rules, man, I’m impressed!!

[Platensek-po]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Dang dude you sound jealous.

you can do better than that man, that jealous claim is like the last bs comment you have when you know someone speaks the truth.  What’s funny is, if you hunted by our rules, lol, you’d starve to death! Not even close to jealous about your skills with hunting, just amazed how good you think you are with having a season that never ends with no rules, man, I’m impressed!!

Lololol I’m not native. Lolololololol

[Jake Dogfish]

It seems some are upset with the wrong people.
It’s the government that needs to provide reparations for hunters and other minority groups that have had their equal rights violated.

[trophyhunt]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Read the context.
Bearrunner96 made the allegations.
Whitefoot LOL'd.
You called him a troll.
I asked for proof of the allegations.
You sling insults.

I just want facts and data.

Facts and data might help with a discussion.

Slinging insults will only cut off conversation.

And I've never met Aaron.    Have no intention to meet him or try to gain a hunt.   Your insinuation is just baseless.

so you accused me of what others said, ok. He is a troll, look back at other threads if you want. When ever this subject comes up, he shows up with his “lol” bs. Check it out if you care.  You really think facts will play a role with the tribes in this thread? Really?  I’ve given them props when it’s warranted, this is not one of those times.  And if calling someone a troll is slinging insults, you might be a snow flake, sorry, just saying.

[trophyhunt]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Dang dude you sound jealous.

you can do better than that man, that jealous claim is like the last bs comment you have when you know someone speaks the truth.  What’s funny is, if you hunted by our rules, lol, you’d starve to death! Not even close to jealous about your skills with hunting, just amazed how good you think you are with having a season that never ends with no rules, man, I’m impressed!!

Lololol I’m not native. Lolololololol

man, you’d never know!

[Platensek-po]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Read the context.
Bearrunner96 made the allegations.
Whitefoot LOL'd.
You called him a troll.
I asked for proof of the allegations.
You sling insults.

I just want facts and data.

Facts and data might help with a discussion.

Slinging insults will only cut off conversation.

And I've never met Aaron.    Have no intention to meet him or try to gain a hunt.   Your insinuation is just baseless.

so you accused me of what others said, ok. He is a troll, look back at other threads if you want. When ever this subject comes up, he shows up with his “lol” bs. Check it out if you care.  You really think facts will play a role with the tribes in this thread? Really?  I’ve given them props when it’s warranted, this is not one of those times.  And if calling someone a troll is slinging insults, you might be a snow flake, sorry, just saying.

But you literally don’t know anything. I would bet you don’t know what single tribes harvest numbers are, or what their seasons are, or what if any of the allegations made in this thread are true. So yeah you can be as mad as you want about words said on a forum. But these things get said over and over and I have yet to see proof of any of it. Have you even looked at the treaties and read them? In most cases the US government failed to uphold its end of those treaties for a long long time. Now you are upset cause OUR government is messing things up. You see others have something you don’t and cry about it. That’s called jealousy plane and simple.

[Dan-o]

I never said people were driving off road, I never said they were wiping out the herd on the Hanford property, ( yes they did on other units), I didn’t say crap about elk racks coming off the Rez?? I’ll answer any question you want, I haven’t been asked yet!  But go ahead and keep kissing butt, Im sure you’ll get to hunt big bulls with Aaron someday

Read the context.
Bearrunner96 made the allegations.
Whitefoot LOL'd.
You called him a troll.
I asked for proof of the allegations.
You sling insults.

I just want facts and data.

Facts and data might help with a discussion.

Slinging insults will only cut off conversation.

And I've never met Aaron.    Have no intention to meet him or try to gain a hunt.   Your insinuation is just baseless.

so you accused me of what others said, ok. He is a troll, look back at other threads if you want. When ever this subject comes up, he shows up with his “lol” bs. Check it out if you care.  You really think facts will play a role with the tribes in this thread? Really?  I’ve given them props when it’s warranted, this is not one of those times.  And if calling someone a troll is slinging insults, you might be a snow flake, sorry, just saying.

I didn't accuse you of what other said, I simply wanted to know if there was any proof of the original allegations made.
I am aware of other threads....   I'd rather that not pollute this discussion.

But I don't think I'm going to get anywhere trying to get actual facts, so I think I'll hang it up for tonight. 

[bearpaw]

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[bearpaw]

(Admin Hat Off)
The jealousy is deafening. I don't see tribes as the enemy of non-native sportsman, the tribes are simply more united in keeping their hunting rights and they have historic agreements which strengthen their voice for now. If I was a native I would be out hunting and fishing during all the seasons I was allowed, just like the majority of everyone reading this would be.

By now I would think most people would have it figured out, the enemy of hunters in Washington is Jay Inslee who has put anti-hunters in the decision making positions for hunting in Washington. The only way to keep hunting in this state is to not vote in another Jay Inslee or worse! If you want to make a difference get involved in electing a moderate or conservative governor who will support sportsman, most likely anyone but a far left governor!

The tribes should do the same, once the anti-hunters eliminate hunting for the majority I expect they will turn their focus to eliminating native hunting rights.