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Offline OutHouse

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #150 on: December 29, 2023, 07:22:20 PM »
Treaty RIGHTs...not 'privileges'.  I think that's fundamental to understanding the topic.

I got about four or five pages in when I realized this comment from early on was the most salient, but unfortunately, also the most disruptive in some ways because it brings the issue front and center. I think its important for everyone to understand that we are talking about "rights" in this situation, based on treaty contracts, one of the highest laws of the land. It just happens to benefit a certain group, who also gave up a great deal to secure the terms of the contract. I believe in making good on promises 

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #151 on: December 29, 2023, 07:34:12 PM »
Seen this on instagram today
Photo is over a decade old.

That photo is most definitely not over a decade old. 3 of my friends personally saw that today in Yakima.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #152 on: December 29, 2023, 07:37:28 PM »
Seen this on instagram today
Photo is over a decade old.

That photo is most definitely not over a decade old. 3 of my friends personally saw that today in Yakima.

I think he's mistaking it for another one that was going around several years ago. Seems like it was a blue chevy back then.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #153 on: December 29, 2023, 07:40:33 PM »
I can see the confusion  :rolleyes:

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #154 on: December 29, 2023, 07:52:15 PM »
Seen this on instagram today
Photo is over a decade old.

That photo is most definitely not over a decade old. 3 of my friends personally saw that today in Yakima.

Hmmm. The weather and angle all work out, the sky does too. I can't tell what the plate says. But either way, I don't know what the actual circumstances are. That may go to several families. Who knows. Maybe some one can chime in who actually knows? That would probably help a lot       :tup:

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #155 on: December 29, 2023, 07:57:37 PM »
Treaty RIGHTs...not 'privileges'.  I think that's fundamental to understanding the topic.

I got about four or five pages in when I realized this comment from early on was the most salient, but unfortunately, also the most disruptive in some ways because it brings the issue front and center. I think its important for everyone to understand that we are talking about "rights" in this situation, based on treaty contracts, one of the highest laws of the land. It just happens to benefit a certain group, who also gave up a great deal to secure the terms of the contract. I believe in making good on promises
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #156 on: December 29, 2023, 08:25:29 PM »
Treaty RIGHTs...not 'privileges'.  I think that's fundamental to understanding the topic.

I got about four or five pages in when I realized this comment from early on was the most salient, but unfortunately, also the most disruptive in some ways because it brings the issue front and center. I think its important for everyone to understand that we are talking about "rights" in this situation, based on treaty contracts, one of the highest laws of the land. It just happens to benefit a certain group, who also gave up a great deal to secure the terms of the contract. I believe in making good on promises
To paraphrase a federal judge from a fishing treaty rights case...great nations, like great men, keep their word.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #157 on: December 29, 2023, 09:18:45 PM »
The first pic of the blue toyota tacomas that body style wasn't made yet 10 years ago, unless natives get trucks before they come out, too

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #158 on: December 29, 2023, 09:59:37 PM »
The first pic of the blue toyota tacomas that body style wasn't made yet 10 years ago, unless natives get trucks before they come out, too
Tbar was wrong, he’s just not admitting it.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #159 on: December 29, 2023, 10:02:01 PM »
Way more bone in the old photo
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #160 on: December 29, 2023, 10:12:38 PM »
The first pic of the blue toyota tacomas that body style wasn't made yet 10 years ago, unless natives get trucks before they come out, too
Tbar was wrong, he’s just not admitting it.

Had the photos wrong. Lol

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #161 on: December 30, 2023, 06:52:29 AM »
From what I can tell Yakima elk enjoy truck rides.

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More special privileges
« Reply #162 on: December 30, 2023, 08:49:26 AM »
Tbar
I know you do lots of work on your side of the mountains with the tribes on natural resources and hunting and it’s truly appreciated. I also know the Colvilles try to work and manage there resource the best they can. Unfortunately the Yakimas have a different look at game management than most of the tribes in Washington. It’s not all the tribal member that are the issue. It’s a select few that are family members and friends of council elders. I’m betting that truck load of elk didn’t come from the Hanford site since it was on 40ave. Unfortunately it came from one of the feeding stations with in the Wenas or oak creek. Do you see a meat pack in any of those pictures ? How did they get to those elk if the were not traveling off/ or closed roads?


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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #163 on: December 30, 2023, 10:35:11 AM »
How easy it seems, with a simple slight of hand, to divert hunters' attention away from the real issues negatively affecting our heritage, so that we turn on each other while the wolves salivate on the sidelines over their success. In the perspective of what's happening to the future of hunting across our entire state, the Hanford bulls are not even a drop in the bucket.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #164 on: December 30, 2023, 10:52:22 AM »
How easy it seems, with a simple slight of hand, to divert hunters' attention away from the real issues negatively affecting our heritage, so that we turn on each other while the wolves salivate on the sidelines over their success. In the perspective of what's happening to the future of hunting across our entire state, the Hanford bulls are not even a drop in the bucket.



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