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[fishngamereaper]

So how'd the hunt go.
Meet management objectives?
Any word on ratio of bulls to cows harvested/ and ratio of mature bulls based on overall herd numbers.

Went as planned and cow season ended two days ago and they most likely wont release any numbers.

Not that you guys are required to but it would seem good for all parties if there was more transparency with tribal hunts and harvest stats with some semi detailed management goals...Since all the pics on forums and ones that I see from local guys are trophy class bulls. I know there's absolutely nothing I can do about treaty rights but it would be good to know you guys take just as many eater bulls as mid 300 class bulls. Especially on these ceremonial hunts ..I sense that's where allot of frustration derives from the non native crowd.

[Whitefoot]

Do they count each cow killed as 2 since there pregnant?

Really? Do they count any kills after rut as two for everyone else?

It would be nice to know the #'s so they could manage it properly, right?

I'm pretty sure that Hanford/Yakama tribe are keeping track because they have certain number they want reduced.

Does the Yakima Tribe keep track of harvest off of Hanford? I assume you have some bad apples that overharvest like we do in Poachers.... If they get caught, is there any repercussion?

It's permit only and hanford and the tribe are monitoring it.

[Whitefoot]

So how'd the hunt go.
Meet management objectives?
Any word on ratio of bulls to cows harvested/ and ratio of mature bulls based on overall herd numbers.

Went as planned and cow season ended two days ago and they most likely wont release any numbers.

Not that you guys are required to but it would seem good for all parties if there was more transparency with tribal hunts and harvest stats with some semi detailed management goals...Since all the pics on forums and ones that I see from local guys are trophy class bulls. I know there's absolutely nothing I can do about treaty rights but it would be good to know you guys take just as many eater bulls as mid 300 class bulls. Especially on these ceremonial hunts ..I sense that's where allot of frustration derives from the non native crowd.

Handford is monitoring the numbers because they want the population reduced and has strict rules in place.  Can't just go driving anywhere. I'm not sure how trophy bull is defined but I'm thinking whatever is easier to pack out.  I think non natives just want a shot at it too!  Understandable. 

[Sneaky Squirrel]

Do they count each cow killed as 2 since there pregnant?

Really? Do they count any kills after rut as two for everyone else?

It would be nice to know the #'s so they could manage it properly, right?

I'm pretty sure that Hanford/Yakama tribe are keeping track because they have certain number they want reduced.

Does the Yakima Tribe keep track of harvest off of Hanford? I assume you have some bad apples that overharvest like we do in Poachers.... If they get caught, is there any repercussion?

It's permit only and hanford and the tribe are monitoring it.

Is the tribe worried about predators at all? Are they free to hunt wolves/cougars/etc.? With the commission that we have, it sure looks like this will be the demise of hunting for all in Washington.

Seems like there would be some more push back from the Natives on this front. Maybe there is and i just don't see it.

[Whitefoot]

Do they count each cow killed as 2 since there pregnant?

Really? Do they count any kills after rut as two for everyone else?

It would be nice to know the #'s so they could manage it properly, right?

I'm pretty sure that Hanford/Yakama tribe are keeping track because they have certain number they want reduced.

Does the Yakima Tribe keep track of harvest off of Hanford? I assume you have some bad apples that overharvest like we do in Poachers.... If they get caught, is there any repercussion?

It's permit only and hanford and the tribe are monitoring it.

Is the tribe worried about predators at all? Are they free to hunt wolves/cougars/etc.? With the commission that we have, it sure looks like this will be the demise of hunting for all in Washington.

Seems like there would be some more push back from the Natives on this front. Maybe there is and i just don't see it.

Bears not so much because of cultural reasons.  Coyotes are targeted as opportunity along with cougars.  Wolves i'm not sure yet because the tribe hasn't openly said anything to what our rules are for them.  So, I'm not sure how to answer that publicly.  There is push back but it's just not out there in public more just in common discussions. 

[trophyhunt]

Do they count each cow killed as 2 since there pregnant?

Really? Do they count any kills after rut as two for everyone else?

It would be nice to know the #'s so they could manage it properly, right?

I'm pretty sure that Hanford/Yakama tribe are keeping track because they have certain number they want reduced.

Does the Yakima Tribe keep track of harvest off of Hanford? I assume you have some bad apples that overharvest like we do in Poachers.... If they get caught, is there any repercussion?

Poaching probably isn't in the yakama vocabulary, unless you mean killing deer or using road kill to bait and kill bald eagles?  The yakamas have NO limits on deer and elk, hunting at night also isn't a big deal to them.  Not slinging mud here, just facts that most already know.

[2MANY]

Hunting morals have been in a downward spiral for many, many years.
Today's usually ooze of arrogance and entitlement.
It's very clear where It's all headed.

A bull's head wacked off, on concrete, with the horse standing behind it.
Kill em all!!!

Where does he say kill them all?

I said kill them all.
It's just a matter of time before elk are only seen in the zoo.

[Whitefoot]

Do they count each cow killed as 2 since there pregnant?

Really? Do they count any kills after rut as two for everyone else?

It would be nice to know the #'s so they could manage it properly, right?

I'm pretty sure that Hanford/Yakama tribe are keeping track because they have certain number they want reduced.

Does the Yakima Tribe keep track of harvest off of Hanford? I assume you have some bad apples that overharvest like we do in Poachers.... If they get caught, is there any repercussion?

Poaching probably isn't in the yakama vocabulary, unless you mean killing deer or using road kill to bait and kill bald eagles?  The yakamas have NO limits on deer and elk, hunting at night also isn't a big deal to them.  Not slinging mud here, just facts that most already know.

Jerry has no insight just what he watches on my  page.  He gives false information out a lot of the time.  He seems to just say random things to get people all upset.  He says facts but in reality even when the facts are given to him he adds places or names making it incorrect.  Poaching is something that is illegal and against the law. You can't say poaching if it isn't against the law and just throw out statements with no proof.  He taunts people just to get reactions.  You do sling mud Jerry every chance you get in a negative way.  But it's your right but to me this is what I always see you doing.  Statements that aren't factually and you convince yourself that everything you say is right.

[Whitefoot]

Hunting morals have been in a downward spiral for many, many years.
Today's usually ooze of arrogance and entitlement.
It's very clear where It's all headed.

A bull's head wacked off, on concrete, with the horse standing behind it.
Kill em all!!!

Where does he say kill them all?

I said kill them all.
It's just a matter of time before elk are only seen in the zoo.

Ok, whatever makes you feel better! 

[2MANY]

Thanks for caring.

[trophyhunt]

Do they count each cow killed as 2 since there pregnant?

Really? Do they count any kills after rut as two for everyone else?

It would be nice to know the #'s so they could manage it properly, right?

I'm pretty sure that Hanford/Yakama tribe are keeping track because they have certain number they want reduced.

Does the Yakima Tribe keep track of harvest off of Hanford? I assume you have some bad apples that overharvest like we do in Poachers.... If they get caught, is there any repercussion?

Poaching probably isn't in the yakama vocabulary, unless you mean killing deer or using road kill to bait and kill bald eagles?  The yakamas have NO limits on deer and elk, hunting at night also isn't a big deal to them.  Not slinging mud here, just facts that most already know.

Jerry has no insight just what he watches on my  page.  He gives false information out a lot of the time.  He seems to just say random things to get people all upset.  He says facts but in reality even when the facts are given to him he adds places or names making it incorrect.  Poaching is something that is illegal and against the law. You can't say poaching if it isn't against the law and just throw out statements with no proof.  He taunts people just to get reactions.  You do sling mud Jerry every chance you get in a negative ways.  But it's your right but to me this is what I always see you doing.  Statements that aren't factually and you convince yourself that everything you say is right.

what did I say that’s a lie?  After you reply what my lie was, let’s PM so we don’t derail this even more. 

[Whitefoot]

Thanks for caring.

You bet!

[MeepDog]

Hey Whitefoot, what are the spiritual beliefs the Yakamas have about bears? I know many tribes have wildly different views on bears, with some eating tons of bears and others saying if you even dream about a bear it will kill you.

[Whitefoot]

Hey Whitefoot, what are the spiritual beliefs the Yakamas have about bears? I know many tribes have wildly different views on bears, with some eating tons of bears and others saying if you even dream about a bear it will kill you.

For me I have no problem shooting them because they have become overly abundant on our closed area.   The bear (represents) or can mean good medicine, courage, and strength. It can be a sign of good medicine, healing, or protection.  A lot of natives see the Wolf as the same so it's always touchy subject for Yakama's.  But my opinion we should hunt them just like Colvilles.

[blackdog]

Thank you Yakama Nation for your leadership in opening this area to hunting.