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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #270 on: January 15, 2024, 04:56:55 PM »

Hunters are law abiding, they seek permits to protest, and they don't fling poo at cops. 
I wish this were entirely true, but it just isn’t unfortunately.

Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.

When your job requires you to go against your moral convictions....time to find a new one.  :dunno:
If it were only that easy, especially for those men and women in uniform.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #271 on: January 15, 2024, 05:52:15 PM »

Hunters are law abiding, they seek permits to protest, and they don't fling poo at cops. 
I wish this were entirely true, but it just isn’t unfortunately.

Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.

When your job requires you to go against your moral convictions....time to find a new one.  :dunno:

That would only leave us with bad cops. 
There has to be a better way.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #272 on: January 15, 2024, 05:56:59 PM »

Hunters are law abiding, they seek permits to protest, and they don't fling poo at cops. 
I wish this were entirely true, but it just isn’t unfortunately.

Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.

When your job requires you to go against your moral convictions....time to find a new one.  :dunno:

That would only leave us with bad cops. 
There has to be a better way.
would a cop protecting his citizens be a bad cop if he betrayed stupid left wing laws? 
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #273 on: January 15, 2024, 06:15:01 PM »

Hunters are law abiding, they seek permits to protest, and they don't fling poo at cops. 
I wish this were entirely true, but it just isn’t unfortunately.

Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.

When your job requires you to go against your moral convictions....time to find a new one.  :dunno:

That would only leave us with bad cops. 
There has to be a better way.
would a cop protecting his citizens be a bad cop if he betrayed stupid left wing laws?

Great question.

I suspect that I ABSOLUTELY HATE some of the stupid/destructive left wing laws every bit as much as you do.

But it's a very dangerous and slippery slope to let folks start deciding which laws they should enforce.
Just as an example that I suspect you and I agree on:

I believe president Biden should be Impeached, found guilty and removed from office for dereliction of duty, because he's not enforcing our current immigration laws.   He obviously doesn't like those laws, so he's not enforcing them.   But IMO, he has no right to not enforce them.

We're all good with stupid laws not being enforced, but our definitions of stupid vary wildly.

I think the only good way out is to make - and enforce - good laws.

But think about the alternative:   If every good cop quit when faced with this, we'd have only bad cops.   Thank God we still have a lot of good cops.  Not enough, but still a lot.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #274 on: January 15, 2024, 07:11:44 PM »
I read the medicine creek treaty and it mentions fishing not hunting

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #275 on: January 15, 2024, 07:23:42 PM »
I read the medicine creek treaty and it mentions fishing not hunting

Hunting rights are included in Article 3 (the same Article that mentions fishing rights).
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #276 on: January 15, 2024, 08:49:59 PM »
I like jerky.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #277 on: January 17, 2024, 11:25:26 AM »

Hunters are law abiding, they seek permits to protest, and they don't fling poo at cops. 
I wish this were entirely true, but it just isn’t unfortunately.

Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.

When your job requires you to go against your moral convictions....time to find a new one.  :dunno:

That would only leave us with bad cops. 
There has to be a better way.
would a cop protecting his citizens be a bad cop if he betrayed stupid left wing laws?

Great question.

I suspect that I ABSOLUTELY HATE some of the stupid/destructive left wing laws every bit as much as you do.

But it's a very dangerous and slippery slope to let folks start deciding which laws they should enforce.
Just as an example that I suspect you and I agree on:

I believe president Biden should be Impeached, found guilty and removed from office for dereliction of duty, because he's not enforcing our current immigration laws.   He obviously doesn't like those laws, so he's not enforcing them.   But IMO, he has no right to not enforce them.

We're all good with stupid laws not being enforced, but our definitions of stupid vary wildly.

I think the only good way out is to make - and enforce - good laws.

But think about the alternative:   If every good cop quit when faced with this, we'd have only bad cops.   Thank God we still have a lot of good cops.  Not enough, but still a lot.

Cops take an oath to uphold the constitution. Any laws that violates the constitution should not be enforced by law enforcement. And if the unconstitutional law is enforced that police office should be jailed or fired because they are doing there job. 

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #278 on: January 17, 2024, 12:42:00 PM »
How did this go from hunting on Hanford to this subject??


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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #279 on: January 17, 2024, 12:59:53 PM »
Radiation.

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Re: More special privileges
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #281 on: January 17, 2024, 01:42:35 PM »
lol


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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #282 on: January 17, 2024, 06:35:55 PM »
Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.
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Okay? I’m not sure what that has to do with KFHunters blanket statement, you sound really well informed
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #283 on: January 18, 2024, 04:23:16 PM »
Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.
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Okay? I’m not sure what that has to do with KFHunters blanket statement, you sound really well informed
I agree with KFs statement.
I'm mostly concerned with the unequal enforcement of the law. Dan O and Trophy stated 2 other points that I find concerning. If the good ones leave we are hosed. If they do not equally enforce we are as well. I don't find that extra scrutiny on the generally law abiding solves the problem of the repetitively unlawful. I would think that more law enforcement unions would be making noise about this. When generally law abiding tax payers no longer see cops as a force for good we all loose. I don't see how keeping heads down to retirement helps thier fellow Leo's...or the citizenry.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #284 on: February 11, 2024, 08:01:49 PM »



Hunters are law abiding, they seek permits to protest, and they don't fling poo at cops. 
I wish this were entirely true, but it just isn’t unfortunately.

Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.

When your job requires you to go against your moral convictions....time to find a new one.  :dunno:

That would only leave us with bad cops. 
There has to be a better way.
would a cop protecting his citizens be a bad cop if he betrayed stupid left wing laws?

Great question.

I suspect that I ABSOLUTELY HATE some of the stupid/destructive left wing laws every bit as much as you do.

But it's a very dangerous and slippery slope to let folks start deciding which laws they should enforce.
Just as an example that I suspect you and I agree on:

I believe president Biden should be Impeached, found guilty and removed from office for dereliction of duty, because he's not enforcing our current immigration laws.   He obviously doesn't like those laws, so he's not enforcing them.   But IMO, he has no right to not enforce them.

We're all good with stupid laws not being enforced, but our definitions of stupid vary wildly.

I think the only good way out is to make - and enforce - good laws.

But think about the alternative:   If every good cop quit when faced with this, we'd have only bad cops.   Thank God we still have a lot of good cops.  Not enough, but still a lot.

Cops take an oath to uphold the constitution. Any laws that violates the constitution should not be enforced by law enforcement. And if the unconstitutional law is enforced that police office should be jailed or fired because they are doing there job.

So a couple years ago WAs long standing felony drug possession law was ruled unconstitutional, it had been in effect for decades.

So should the thousands of LEOs who enforced that law be arrested? I'm guessing not and it's only laws you personally view as unconstitutional that LEOs should not enforce.

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