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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #285 on: February 11, 2024, 08:24:25 PM »



Hunters are law abiding, they seek permits to protest, and they don't fling poo at cops. 
I wish this were entirely true, but it just isn’t unfortunately.

Cops just enforce the rules, however they are the enforcers for the state. Cops have a rough job with bad leadership so when they say I'm just doing my job I can understand  but they also choose a job that put them in the bad situation.

When your job requires you to go against your moral convictions....time to find a new one.  :dunno:

That would only leave us with bad cops. 
There has to be a better way.
would a cop protecting his citizens be a bad cop if he betrayed stupid left wing laws?

Great question.

I suspect that I ABSOLUTELY HATE some of the stupid/destructive left wing laws every bit as much as you do.

But it's a very dangerous and slippery slope to let folks start deciding which laws they should enforce.
Just as an example that I suspect you and I agree on:

I believe president Biden should be Impeached, found guilty and removed from office for dereliction of duty, because he's not enforcing our current immigration laws.   He obviously doesn't like those laws, so he's not enforcing them.   But IMO, he has no right to not enforce them.

We're all good with stupid laws not being enforced, but our definitions of stupid vary wildly.

I think the only good way out is to make - and enforce - good laws.

But think about the alternative:   If every good cop quit when faced with this, we'd have only bad cops.   Thank God we still have a lot of good cops.  Not enough, but still a lot.

Cops take an oath to uphold the constitution. Any laws that violates the constitution should not be enforced by law enforcement. And if the unconstitutional law is enforced that police office should be jailed or fired because they are doing there job.

So a couple years ago WAs long standing felony drug possession law was ruled unconstitutional, it had been in effect for decades.

So should the thousands of LEOs who enforced that law be arrested? I'm guessing not and it's only laws you personally view as unconstitutional that LEOs should not enforce.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #286 on: February 23, 2024, 05:45:56 AM »
Looking through the current proposals I see a new elk sub area was added for rattlesnake.

Looks like possibly 4 quality bull tags and 20 cow tags split between weapons. I'm pleased the State followed through in such a timely manner. I didn't expect opportunity in that area this year.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #287 on: November 05, 2025, 09:37:00 PM »
Its in the treaty that was signed by both sides. Can't really argue that.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #288 on: November 06, 2025, 09:38:07 AM »
The elk there need to be hunted. I support the Yaks being allowed to do this as a ceremonial rite effort. Thinning the herd will help all the elk in that area stay healthy. I view this as far less a special privilege than an actual tribal rite. Will some abuse the right to do so? Possibly. But I support the Yakamas in exercising their right to do this.

We have tribal members who belong to this site and are our fellow hunters...and practice this hunting privilege that we share with ethics and honor for the animals we hunt. If you want to go after someone for the loss of our hunting privileges, I would suggest that the Wildlife Commission is a much more justifiable and target-rich environment to do so. We shouldn't alienate each other here.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #289 on: November 06, 2025, 09:58:37 AM »
 :yeah:
It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #290 on: November 11, 2025, 10:00:56 AM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #291 on: November 11, 2025, 10:06:04 AM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!
Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value.  :twocents:

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #292 on: November 11, 2025, 10:22:17 AM »
 :chuckle:
It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #293 on: November 11, 2025, 10:40:19 AM »
Maybe someday we all can play by the same rules, “in common with”, yeah right.
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #294 on: November 11, 2025, 10:41:44 AM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!
Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value.  :twocents:
I think it was a Fred Flinstone buggy.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #295 on: November 11, 2025, 11:11:43 AM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!
Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value.  :twocents:

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #296 on: November 11, 2025, 01:48:14 PM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!
Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value.  :twocents:

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.
That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.
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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #297 on: November 11, 2025, 02:02:09 PM »
The Quinault River is off limits to non tribal members, remind us where in the state is off limits to the tribes.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #298 on: November 11, 2025, 02:10:20 PM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!
Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value.  :twocents:

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.
That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.

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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #299 on: November 11, 2025, 02:46:39 PM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!
Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value.  :twocents:

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.
That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.



Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is  :twocents:
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