HB 2434 Eliminating FWC

[hunter399]

How about a bill where the commissioners aren't appointed by the governor and it's instead a body of the district head biologists.  let the scientists make some decisions.

I'd go along with that.
Sounds like a good idea.

[HUNTIN4SIX]

How about a bill where the commissioners aren't appointed by the governor and it's instead a body of the district head biologists.  let the scientists make some decisions.

I kinda agree....If the biologist are on the same page.  WDFW has many bios that are very biased and don't reflect the majority of fish and wildlife users.  Of course there are some good ones, but there is alot of bad ones too.

[MeepDog]

How about a bill where the commissioners aren't appointed by the governor and it's instead a body of the district head biologists.  let the scientists make some decisions.

I kinda agree....If the biologist are on the same page.  WDFW has many bios that are very biased and don't reflect the majority of fish and wildlife users.  Of course there are some good ones, but there is alot of bad ones too.

It's just weird to me why we would in a sense sub-contract out a job that should be an internal board within the department. Instead of some spicy stand in activist we'd just have normal boring government employees making normal decisions instead of jumping off the rails.

[HUNTIN4SIX]

How about a bill where the commissioners aren't appointed by the governor and it's instead a body of the district head biologists.  let the scientists make some decisions.

  Might even give employees a little more passion their career.   

I kinda agree....If the biologist are on the same page.  WDFW has many bios that are very biased and don't reflect the majority of fish and wildlife users.  Of course there are some good ones, but there is alot of bad ones too.

It's just weird to me why we would in a sense sub-contract out a job that should be an internal board within the department. Instead of some spicy stand in activist we'd just have normal boring government employees making normal decisions instead of jumping off the rails.

[huntnphool]

Had me right up until the part where the director is appointed by the governor

 Bingo!

 This is exactly where B. Hussein began taking over, realizing that “commissions” had to answer to only one person, the governor, and couldn’t be touched regardless how pissed of “the people” got. There is no avenue to get rid of commission members, other than to vote out the person that appointed them!

 No thanks!!!!

[Tbar]

Had me right up until the part where the director is appointed by the governor

 Bingo!

 This is exactly where B. Hussein began taking over, realizing that “commissions” had to answer to only one person, the governor, and couldn’t be touched regardless how pissed of “the people” got. There is no avenue to get rid of commission members, other than to vote out the person that appointed them!

 No thanks!!!!

So you like the status quo? 

[nwwanderer]

The right, pardon the pun, governor would benefit us all

[time2hunt]

https://www.capitalpress.com/ag_sectors/rurallife/washington-lawmaker-proposes-disbanding-fish-and-wildlife-commission/article_02584ff8-b71a-11ee-8e71-d384fba1cf1f.html


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[hunter399]

Had me right up until the part where the director is appointed by the governor

 Bingo!

 This is exactly where B. Hussein began taking over, realizing that “commissions” had to answer to only one person, the governor, and couldn’t be touched regardless how pissed of “the people” got. There is no avenue to get rid of commission members, other than to vote out the person that appointed them!

 No thanks!!!!

So you like the status quo? 

I was thinking same,I don't really see a resolution besides this
Governor is lost cause in Washington.
Commission is currently chipping at our seasons, without proof of unsustainable population.
They do not like to compromise with hunters at all,or even recognize us as stake holders.
Because of that , trust is gone.

Example of this would be bear season.
They could of very easily taken the second tag,and left the season August 1 opening.
Let the cards fall,see if harvest rates level out.
That would be a compromise.
They are power drunk ,all this BS will just get worse.

[Special T]

https://www.capitalpress.com/ag_sectors/rurallife/washington-lawmaker-proposes-disbanding-fish-and-wildlife-commission/article_02584ff8-b71a-11ee-8e71-d384fba1cf1f.html


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Wilcox states the he is doubtful this will pass and hopes it forces a discussion.

I don't think this is the answer. I don't like the status quo. I feel like if the intent of the RCWs were enforced we wouldn't be in this situation. The checks and balances are broken.

[pianoman9701]

Had me right up until the part where the director is appointed by the governor

I don't see how it's possible to be any worse than it is now with animal rights advocates controlling every vote 5-4. 

[hunter399]

I just sent my comment of support, through the link.

I'm a roll the dice kinda guy. It's not working now. So I'll take my chances.
Can't follow the mandate,then go home,your not needed.

[huntnphool]

Had me right up until the part where the director is appointed by the governor

 Bingo!

 This is exactly where B. Hussein began taking over, realizing that “commissions” had to answer to only one person, the governor, and couldn’t be touched regardless how pissed of “the people” got. There is no avenue to get rid of commission members, other than to vote out the person that appointed them!

 No thanks!!!!

So you like the status quo? 

 No, it would simply be the other side of the same ass!

[Tbar]

Had me right up until the part where the director is appointed by the governor

 Bingo!

 This is exactly where B. Hussein began taking over, realizing that “commissions” had to answer to only one person, the governor, and couldn’t be touched regardless how pissed of “the people” got. There is no avenue to get rid of commission members, other than to vote out the person that appointed them!

 No thanks!!!!

So you like the status quo? 

 No, it would simply be the other side of the same ass!

I think it's much easier to move and remove one vs a committee.  The committee shields each other from accountability, even the pro hunting commissioners.

[dwils233]

The current model isn't bad, it's actually how a lot states do it. The problem is when bad-faith, ideologically driven political actors realize there aren't enough sideboards which allows them to go off sideways.

It needs refinement, better oversight for governance, stricter appointment procedures, and disciplinary tools to keep it from going off the rails. The current commission issues  aren't because of bad structure, as much as insufficient structure and abuse