New dedicated turkey gun

[ASHQUACK]

So, I decided that I'm going from a 12 gauge to a 20 for turkeys. Wanted a semi auto, and started shopping the interwebs for a decent entry level 20. Looked at everything from completely unknowns to some of the top end 2k plus auto loaders. I happened by Bi-Mart on my way home from a clam dig and saw they had a Weatherby Element in 20 for a relatively low price, comparatively speaking. I bought it and have ordered a tru-glo 1x red dot for it. Next up I'm looking for a gunsmith to drill and tap the receiver for a pic rail to mount the scope. My Smith passed away a couple years ago. I plan on finding a couple of decent chokes and head to the patterning woods. I'm gonna try hevi-metal turkey loads 1st. Then maybe some of the old Federal lead #4 duck loads left over from....well left over anyway. My only (mostly mental) issue with the gun is the long 28" barrel.

[hughjorgan]

Have you thought about trying TSS #9s?

[ShedHead20]

I bought the same Bi-mart special but in a 12 gauge. Great shotgun so far! Bi-Mart has some sleeper deals 

[ASHQUACK]

Have you thought about trying TSS #9s?

Actually yes, I have 5 a friend loaded that will be test loads for choke combinations.

[hughjorgan]

Have you thought about trying TSS #9s?

Actually yes, I have 5 a friend loaded that will be test loads for choke combinations.

They should pattern great paired with the right choke.

[wadu1]

@ASHQUACK doesn't it already have scope mounts milled into the receiver? The only auto loader I have that doesn't have them is my SP10.

[ASHQUACK]

@ASHQUACK doesn't it already have scope mounts milled into the receiver? The only auto loader I have that doesn't have them is my SP10.

Unfortunately I don't believe that it does. I'll look again when I get it in hand. Did I mention that I hate the stupid 10 day waiting period..stupid communist legislature.

[wadu1]

@ASHQUACK doesn't it already have scope mounts milled into the receiver? The only auto loader I have that doesn't have them is my SP10.

Unfortunately I don't believe that it does. I'll look again when I get it in hand. Did I mention that I hate the stupid 10 day waiting period..stupid communist legislature.

I got an extra delay because the SXS shotgun didn't have a SN#.

[salish]

I have a dedicated 20ga turkey gun and I've killed turkeys with the Apex #9 TSS, and also with straight-up high brass magnum pheasant loads in #4 and #6. The TSS penetrated further into the birds but didn't kill them any quicker. I think the TSS might come into it's own at longer ranges. Have fun with your new gun.

[birddogdad]

the Elements dont come tapped for a red dot mount on receiver.. this will have to be a mod you make.

[ASHQUACK]

I have a dedicated 20ga turkey gun and I've killed turkeys with the Apex #9 TSS, and also with straight-up high brass magnum pheasant loads in #4 and #6. The TSS penetrated further into the birds but didn't kill them any quicker. I think the TSS might come into it's own at longer ranges. Have fun with your new gun.

Way back when, we bought a bunch of cases of federal high brass 3" #4 from Yard Birds  I still have a few (10) boxes of those. I'll probably shoot a few of those for up close birds.

[ASHQUACK]

the Elements dont come tapped for a red dot mount on receiver.. this will have to be a mod you make.

Going to have to start searching for a Smith to do that work.

[salish]

 

I have a dedicated 20ga turkey gun and I've killed turkeys with the Apex #9 TSS, and also with straight-up high brass magnum pheasant loads in #4 and #6. The TSS penetrated further into the birds but didn't kill them any quicker. I think the TSS might come into it's own at longer ranges. Have fun with your new gun.

Way back when, we bought a bunch of cases of federal high brass 3" #4 from Yard Birds  I still have a few (10) boxes of those. I'll probably shoot a few of those for up close birds.

[birddogdad]

I have a dedicated 20ga turkey gun and I've killed turkeys with the Apex #9 TSS, and also with straight-up high brass magnum pheasant loads in #4 and #6. The TSS penetrated further into the birds but didn't kill them any quicker. I think the TSS might come into it's own at longer ranges. Have fun with your new gun.

Way back when, we bought a bunch of cases of federal high brass 3" #4 from Yard Birds  I still have a few (10) boxes of those. I'll probably shoot a few of those for up close birds.

be careful with shot size in TSS tubes... most have restrictions from manufacturer..

[salish]

I have a dedicated 20ga turkey gun and I've killed turkeys with the Apex #9 TSS, and also with straight-up high brass magnum pheasant loads in #4 and #6. The TSS penetrated further into the birds but didn't kill them any quicker. I think the TSS might come into it's own at longer ranges. Have fun with your new gun.

Way back when, we bought a bunch of cases of federal high brass 3" #4 from Yard Birds  I still have a few (10) boxes of those. I'll probably shoot a few of those for up close birds.

be careful with shot size in TSS tubes... most have restrictions from manufacturer..

I have a Jeb's 20ga choke in .555 and it patterns really well with both TSS and lead. Great chokes.

[Karl Blanchard]

This may be an option for you if your tru glo is for a pic rail

https://meadow-creek-mounts.myshopify.com/products/picatinny-weaver-rib-mount

No idea if anyone makes a saddle mount for the weatherby but that's also an easy option.

[ASHQUACK]

This may be an option for you if your tru glo is for a pic rail

https://meadow-creek-mounts.myshopify.com/products/picatinny-weaver-rib-mount

No idea if anyone makes a saddle mount for the weatherby but that's also an easy option.

All saddle mounts I found were for other guns. I know that something would probably work but....I'm gonna call that company and see if this is an option for me.  Thanks!

[birddogdad]

look at burris speedbead for non invasive mounting for your red dot...

[hunter399]

I put a red dot on my son's shotgun.
Cheapo 12guage from Walmart.
It was drilled and tapped,but no rail or scope base would line up.
Only one company I found even sold one,his birthday is in March.
I was on a time crunch to make something work
I ended up drilling holes in a different rail. His rail is only held on with 3 screws instead of four.
Buying scope bases for shotguns ,seems more difficult then it should be.

[birddogdad]

I put a red dot on my son's shotgun.
Cheapo 12guage from Walmart.
It was drilled and tapped,but no rail or scope base would line up.
Only one company I found even sold one,his birthday is in March.
I was on a time crunch to make something work
I ended up drilling holes in a different rail. His rail is only held on with 3 screws instead of four.
Buying scope bases for shotguns ,seems more difficult then it should be.

sumtoy is pretty good with most bases...

[wadu1]

look at burris speedbead for non invasive mounting for your red dot...

I've used a Beretta 391 with a shim area mount, it was very good. This Burris system looks good and for about $60, no drilling required.
https://www.burrisoptics.com/mounting-systems/speedbeadtm-vent-rib-mount

[duckmen1]

look at burris speedbead for non invasive mounting for your red dot...

I've used a Beretta 391 with a shim area mount, it was very good. This Burris system looks good and for about $60, no drilling required.
https://www.burrisoptics.com/mounting-systems/speedbeadtm-vent-rib-mount

I wonder if that system would work on the CZ Drake 410. With 410s being so much smaller of barrels. And the CZ drake not being tapped. I may have to look into it more. Been thinking about a red dot for turkey hunting.

[wadu1]

look at burris speedbead for non invasive mounting for your red dot...

I've used a Beretta 391 with a shim area mount, it was very good. This Burris system looks good and for about $60, no drilling required.
https://www.burrisoptics.com/mounting-systems/speedbeadtm-vent-rib-mount

I wonder if that system would work on the CZ Drake 410. With 410s being so much smaller of barrels. And the CZ drake not being tapped. I may have to look into it more. Been thinking about a red dot for turkey hunting.

Since it mounts on the rib. If adaptors slide between the barrel and rib you should be OK.

[duckmen1]

look at burris speedbead for non invasive mounting for your red dot...

I've used a Beretta 391 with a shim area mount, it was very good. This Burris system looks good and for about $60, no drilling required.
https://www.burrisoptics.com/mounting-systems/speedbeadtm-vent-rib-mount

I wonder if that system would work on the CZ Drake 410. With 410s being so much smaller of barrels. And the CZ drake not being tapped. I may have to look into it more. Been thinking about a red dot for turkey hunting.

Since it mounts on the rib. If adaptors slide between the barrel and rib you should be OK.

That’s what I was thinking. It should slide in no problem. I think the only concern I have is how narrow the rib is.

[zwickeyman]

look at burris speedbead for non invasive mounting for your red dot...

  I have the speed bead and a FastFire red dot on my Benelli, love it. I just remove the red dot for upland and waterfowl

[ASHQUACK]

I called Burris and according to the customer rep they don't have a mount that will work with the Weatherby. I ordered 2 different sights. The 1st one is the Hi-Viz Tom Buster and the 2nd is the Dead Ringer beard buster. They both mount to the rib. I'll see which one I like the best and use it. They were only 20 bucks each so no huge money spent. Next up will be finding a good patterning choke.

[highside74]

I did a 20g nova last year. Mounted a bushnell rx using a Sumtoy base. The RX is the same footprint as Leupold Delta point. Local gun shop tapped it for $80. Patterned Federal, Browning and Herters TSS. Herters was as good as Federal for $15 less.

[CastleRocker]

the Elements dont come tapped for a red dot mount on receiver.. this will have to be a mod you make.

Going to have to start searching for a Smith to do that work.

If you are looking for a gunsmith in the Castle Rock area, try 3 Peaks Firearms.  He's good.

[ASHQUACK]

Well gents, the new shotgun performed well today.

[highside74]

Boom lets gooooo!