1x scopes vs open sights

[steeleywhopper]

How many can remember a fairly distinct moment in time when the realization set in, that using traditional open sights (bead in a groove) wasn't going to be an option for very much longer?

My father went through this a few years ago when I was trying to get him to go with us Muzzy elk. He could not see the the front sight and target.
I am all for the 1x scopes so I can hunt with my father again.
I also don't think there will be a million guys ditching their long archery seasons or their Modern firearm elk seasons to switch to the short muzzy season.

[bobcat]

I'm 56 and I can't see anything up close, but a peep sight works just fine for me on my muzzleloader.

[lazydrifter]

I wonder if this passes if they would allow us to take a 1-4x scope and epoxy the power ring into place at 1x making it impossible to change.  Maybe Leupold could come up with something. 

[SuperX]

I sympathize with older hunters facing challenges with primitive weapons.  I'm 66.  What I don't sympathize with is the notion that we should change the rules to cater to old fogies like me.  If I can't pull my bow back if it's at the minimum legal draw weight, why should we make it legal for everyone to use a cross bow?  If I can't see my front sights with my muzzy, why should we all get to use a  scope?  If I can't walk that far, why should all the trails be opened to ATVs?

The solution is being flexible and changing ME not changing the rules for everyone.  If I couldn't draw my bow I should switch to rifle or muzzle loader.  If I can't use a muzzle loader with iron sights I should use a modern rifle with a scope that I can see through.  Time catches up with all of us, and we have to adapt.  It's not society's job to adapt to me.   

[full choke]

A fella can always use a scoped muzzy during the modern season. You can still hunt with your black powder rifle, even increase your vision with powered optics!

Muzzy season is what it is because it is supposed to be primitive. It is already tainted, why keep blurring the lines?

Anyhow it really it isn't going to matter in a couple of years anyways. Might as well eat your cake now.

[The100Road]

I sympathize with older hunters facing challenges with primitive weapons.  I'm 66.  What I don't sympathize with is the notion that we should change the rules to cater to old fogies like me.  If I can't pull my bow back if it's at the minimum legal draw weight, why should we make it legal for everyone to use a cross bow?  If I can't see my front sights with my muzzy, why should we all get to use a  scope?  If I can't walk that far, why should all the trails be opened to ATVs?

The solution is being flexible and changing ME not changing the rules for everyone.  If I couldn't draw my bow I should switch to rifle or muzzle loader.  If I can't use a muzzle loader with iron sights I should use a modern rifle with a scope that I can see through.  Time catches up with all of us, and we have to adapt.  It's not society's job to adapt to me.   

Right. So if you can’t or dont want to use a scope…… then don’t. Why would you stop me from using one? Worry about yourself right? 

[The100Road]

A fella can always use a scoped muzzy during the modern season. You can still hunt with your black powder rifle, even increase your vision with powered optics!

Muzzy season is what it is because it is supposed to be primitive. It is already tainted, why keep blurring the lines?

Anyhow it really it isn't going to matter in a couple of years anyways. Might as well eat your cake now.

If you believe it’s “supposed to be primitive” then don’t use a scope. Why stop others from doing what they want or feel comfortable with? You love primitive great. Go use a spear and stop caring if others want to use a scope or not.

[full choke]

A fella can always use a scoped muzzy during the modern season. You can still hunt with your black powder rifle, even increase your vision with powered optics!

Muzzy season is what it is because it is supposed to be primitive. It is already tainted, why keep blurring the lines?

Anyhow it really it isn't going to matter in a couple of years anyways. Might as well eat your cake now.

If you believe it’s “supposed to be primitive” then don’t use a scope. Why stop others from doing what they want or feel comfortable with? You love primitive great. Go use a spear and stop caring if others want to use a scope or not.

Because the timing of the season is set for primitive weapons. If you cannot use a primitive weapon hunt during the season that allows for glass. Pretty simple.

[lazydrifter]

No different than archery.  Used to be recurve.  Then went to compound 50% let off.  Then 65%, then 80%.  Then sights, releases, stabilizers. Certain broadheads, now mechanical broadheads that open at impact.  Why is that, so they can shoot further.   Hell there's people shooting over a 100 yards at animals with a compound in the most primitive of seasons.  Times change. 

[Rodney107]

Allowing the older group to be able to shoot with a scope/crossbow would allow families to still be able to hunt together doing what they prefer doin.   

[full choke]

Allowing the older group to be able to shoot with a scope/crossbow would allow families to still be able to hunt together doing what they prefer doin.   

They can use a scope on their muzzy all day long during the modern season. Even a high powered scope.

[Ghost Hunter]

Kumbaya......

[The100Road]

A fella can always use a scoped muzzy during the modern season. You can still hunt with your black powder rifle, even increase your vision with powered optics!

Muzzy season is what it is because it is supposed to be primitive. It is already tainted, why keep blurring the lines?

Anyhow it really it isn't going to matter in a couple of years anyways. Might as well eat your cake now.

If you believe it’s “supposed to be primitive” then don’t use a scope. Why stop others from doing what they want or feel comfortable with? You love primitive great. Go use a spear and stop caring if others want to use a scope or not.

Because the timing of the season is set for primitive weapons. If you cannot use a primitive weapon hunt during the season that allows for glass. Pretty simple.

I am using a primitive weapon. With a 1x scope on it. Muzzys don’t shoot 1000 yards like rifles. If I want to shoot a rifle I’d hunt during rifle season. I think it’s hunters who can’t get an elk don’t want others to use a 1x scope because it’ll some how hurt there chances even more. Pretty selfish.

[full choke]

A fella can always use a scoped muzzy during the modern season. You can still hunt with your black powder rifle, even increase your vision with powered optics!

Muzzy season is what it is because it is supposed to be primitive. It is already tainted, why keep blurring the lines?

Anyhow it really it isn't going to matter in a couple of years anyways. Might as well eat your cake now.

If you believe it’s “supposed to be primitive” then don’t use a scope. Why stop others from doing what they want or feel comfortable with? You love primitive great. Go use a spear and stop caring if others want to use a scope or not.

Because the timing of the season is set for primitive weapons. If you cannot use a primitive weapon hunt during the season that allows for glass. Pretty simple.

I am using a primitive weapon. With a 1x scope on it. Muzzys don’t shoot 1000 yards like rifles. If I want to shoot a rifle I’d hunt during rifle season. I think it’s hunters who can’t get an elk don’t want others to use a 1x scope because it’ll some how hurt there chances even more. Pretty selfish.

HaHa.

More selfish than wanting to bend existing rules to match your personal inadequacies?

[The100Road]

A fella can always use a scoped muzzy during the modern season. You can still hunt with your black powder rifle, even increase your vision with powered optics!

Muzzy season is what it is because it is supposed to be primitive. It is already tainted, why keep blurring the lines?

Anyhow it really it isn't going to matter in a couple of years anyways. Might as well eat your cake now.

If you believe it’s “supposed to be primitive” then don’t use a scope. Why stop others from doing what they want or feel comfortable with? You love primitive great. Go use a spear and stop caring if others want to use a scope or not.

Because the timing of the season is set for primitive weapons. If you cannot use a primitive weapon hunt during the season that allows for glass. Pretty simple.

I am using a primitive weapon. With a 1x scope on it. Muzzys don’t shoot 1000 yards like rifles. If I want to shoot a rifle I’d hunt during rifle season. I think it’s hunters who can’t get an elk don’t want others to use a 1x scope because it’ll some how hurt there chances even more. Pretty selfish.

HaHa.

More selfish than wanting to bend existing rules to match your personal inadequacies?

Yes.

I couldn’t care less what other hunters want to use or do while hunting if it’s legal. I would never try to prevent them from being successful. I do my own thing and wish them luck.