Seal a bear

[boneaddict]

Were you guys aware of this one coming down the pike?

Black Bear must be sealed inside a 72-hour window. Any Bear brought in to be
sealed that is lactating would require a search for the orphaned Cubs. If Cubs
are found prosecution would proceed for said hunter.

[ghosthunter]

That’s bull s%#$&@.

[Loup Loup]

Wow….

[baker5150]

Prosecution for what? 

[Ghost Hunter]

      And they want accurate hunt reporting.   

[boneaddict]

Prosecution for what?

That was also on the discussion, Create a clause that makes the taking of a cub or a sow with cubs illegal

[MeepDog]

Is this set in stone yet or is there a way to fight this?

[boneaddict]

NO, not set in stone, it was a discussion on this last bunch of proposals.  Just the fact its out there and they are thinking about it.   They have it tabled for the reason of waiting to see what the commission announces for bear.

[Humptulips]

This got a do not recommend from the Director and passed out of the Wildlife Committee with no action. Never made it on to the CR-102 so it is dead for now and probably won't be heard of for three more years.
It does mean there is someone in the Department that thinks it is a good idea and could be resubmitted in the next Season setting after this one, three years away.

[zwickeyman]

F-N *censored* Game Dept!!

Sorry you folks have to deal with this BS

[Loup Loup]

It’s an insult one of “our” employees thought this up.

[str8meat]

Sounds like someone has had their optomology window installed.

[Bunny Thumper]

Hides stay in the woods. End of story.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Prosecution for what?

That was also on the discussion, Create a clause that makes the taking of a cub or a sow with cubs illegal

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I see this as an opening for permits to bait.
The law allows for permits.
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I know that the Vail tree farm has a guy feeding bears as part of their attempts to curb spring damage.
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He doesn't hunt, but told me that there are paid "control" personnel that use hounds and kill bear in high damage areas.
They cannot keep anything..
(It goes to waste)
But they still do it.
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They are "permitted" by the WDFW, and allowed to reduce the population in high damage areas
Behind closed gates....limited entry, and usually at night..

having bait allowed would give the opportunity to evaluate the bear and be able to be selective.
According to the existing laws, the WDFW can permit harvest under "special circumstance" and freely allow private landowner to collect for damages.
Before that private landowner can collect they must show damage.
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Andy Markovitch (?)  used to fight for access for the hunters.
But..
Lost because most of us cannot kill a f'n rabbit.
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Bait and hounds was the only effective way.
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And that is only good memories.
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The history of bear hunting in Washington is interesting.
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Ralph Flowers?

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Nothing against Doug Boze, his books are real solid information about today's political and legal ways to hunt.
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But, ...
The "Education of a bear hunter" is a walk through history in Washington State.
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Before bear were even considered game animals.
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No tag, no limit, no season.
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[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

And if anybody remembers Billythekidrock..

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Or something like that...
He was the man in capital forest.
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[Ghost Hunter]

And if anybody remembers Billythekidrock..

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Or something like that...
He was the man in capital forest.
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Met him a couple times and provided good info for a couple spring hunts in the Capitol.   

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

And if anybody remembers Billythekidrock..

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Or something like that...
He was the man in capital forest.
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Met him a couple times and provided good info for a couple spring hunts in the Capitol.   

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Yeah, back when we were family, and not a selling platform.
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Success has costs.,
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Honestly it's not my page, or forum
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But I miss the free information and honest offers, without compensation.

[boneaddict]

And if anybody remembers Billythekidrock..

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Or something like that...
He was the man in capital forest.
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Still friends with him, Great guy!

[boneaddict]

Some Bear history, you might remember this pic Stik from the good ole days.   Old Roy with his 200th bear.  He was from the Snohomish area.

[hunter399]

This seal a hide is a carry over from spring bear discussion.
Which we all know spring bear didn't happen.
So that's where the idea came from,now let's make it a general season rule.(stupid)

Which if they would of followed department recommendations and set a season for spring bear,with the seal a hide requirement.
They didn't,so just drop the whole deal ,my opinion.
Ridiculous.

I guess what I'm trying to say is....
They could of eased into a regulation like this,with a trial run on spring bear. Seen some results,seen how it played out.
Then maybe thought about general season.
As it is now,I see no point. It's not spring during general season.
Cubs are more visible, during fall .

[bearpaw]

And if anybody remembers Billythekidrock..

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Or something like that...
He was the man in capital forest.
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Met him a couple times and provided good info for a couple spring hunts in the Capitol.   

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Yeah, back when we were family, and not a selling platform.
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Success has costs.,
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Honestly it's not my page, or forum
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But I miss the free information and honest offers, without compensation.

I have not operated this forum as a profitable venture yet, advertising is used to pay expenses.

But if you or any other member(s) don't mind providing several thousand dollars for expenses each year to pay for the server lease and maintenance, pay the tech guy to solve issues that shut down the forum, and other associated expenses, we wouldn't need any advertising to cover those costs, just sayin!

Additionally, to my knowledge other than myself and other businesses who pay to advertise their goods and services (which supports the cost of keeping this forum online), all the other free information between members has no cost to anyone! Please let me know if I am missing something?

[bearpaw]

Were you guys aware of this one coming down the pike?

Black Bear must be sealed inside a 72-hour window. Any Bear brought in to be
sealed that is lactating would require a search for the orphaned Cubs. If Cubs
are found prosecution would proceed for said hunter.

That is very troubling language and not even written well!

[dilleytech]

Lol ok well more the reason not to get your beer sealed then. I killed a lactating cougar once and they called me looking for exact location I shot the cat so they could look for the cubs. I told them well.. I shot that cat 2 weeks ago so idk what good that will do. They decided to not pursue.

[bearhunter99]

What a crock.  They are trying harder and harder to criminalize the standard hunter.  The part about cubs?  Where do they draw the line?  How big does it have to be to be defined as an adult? 

This wouldn't be as big of an issue if baiting was still legal.  Baiting really provides the chance to accurately assess the size and sex of an animal (not getting into whether bears are transgender or not) and far fewer sows are killed.  Without baiting most opportunities are very quick and there is not much time to ascertain if there are cubs.