Montana deer 2024

[tdot24]

This is my first year not buying the point, so all 5 of us in the party have 0, I’ve drawn 3 out of 4 years(all with point) the one year I didn’t draw I got in by alternate tag. Hopin I don’t regret not buying the point, we shall see.

[elkrack]

lol I didn’t buy the point either…. The 1 point no mans land scared everyone off

[hoytxl2009]

anybody know the odds this year for the combo with 2pts?

Here the last few years.

[Karl Blanchard]

lol I didn’t buy the point either…. The 1 point no mans land scared everyone off

I wouldnt necessarily call it no man's land. As total apps continue to back slide I forsee 0 and 1 being 50/50ish this year. 1 was 40% last year. I would have personally purchased a point. It guarantees you will hunt deer in MT this year or 2025 season. Going in at zero gives you no guarantee. Total apps for deer from 2019-2023:

19'- 12,519
20'- 13,606
21' - 19,484 (thanks covid)
22'- 17,396
23'- 15,929

[CarbonHunter]

So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing?  Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.

[Magnum_Willys]

I think you can go in with zero and buy a point in July?
If so thats better approach than applying with one point.   
  Or you automatically get a point if not drawn?

[Karl Blanchard]

So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing?  Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.

minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.

[Karl Blanchard]

I think you can go in with zero and buy a point in July?
If so thats better approach than applying with one point.   
  Or you automatically get a point if not drawn?

none of that is accurate. You do not get a point if unsuccessful unless you pay up front for the point. You cannot purchase a point in the fall if you applied in the spring.

[Karl Blanchard]

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[Karl Blanchard]

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[BULLBLASTER]

I think you can go in with zero and buy a point in July?
If so thats better approach than applying with one point.   
  Or you automatically get a point if not drawn?

none of that is accurate. You do not get a point if unsuccessful unless you pay up front for the point. You cannot purchase a point in the fall if you applied in the spring.

Also when you buy a point you get it before the draw.

[CarbonHunter]

So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing?  Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.

minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.

Maybe for deer the increase was minimal but for the elk combo, where most appear to obtain their deer tag the increase was 22% from 2022 to 2023 according to the post from the Rockslide clip.

If memory serves me right there isn’t any tags set aside for just deer in the 25%, correct?

[vandeman17]

So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing?  Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.

minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.

Maybe for deer the increase was minimal but for the elk combo, where most appear to obtain their deer tag the increase was 22% from 2022 to 2023 according to the post from the Rockslide clip.

If memory serves me right there isn’t any tags set aside for just deer in the 25%, correct?

Correct on no tags set aside for deer

[Karl Blanchard]

So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing?  Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.

minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.

Maybe for deer the increase was minimal but for the elk combo, where most appear to obtain their deer tag the increase was 22% from 2022 to 2023 according to the post from the Rockslide clip.

If memory serves me right there isn’t any tags set aside for just deer in the 25%, correct?

I haven't looked at the big game combo numbers. The thread is titled montana deer so I was assuming we were talking about deer combos

[elkrack]

lol I didn’t buy the point either…. The 1 point no mans land scared everyone off

I wouldnt necessarily call it no man's land. As total apps continue to back slide I forsee 0 and 1 being 50/50ish this year. 1 was 40% last year. I would have personally purchased a point. It guarantees you will hunt deer in MT this year or 2025 season. Going in at zero gives you no guarantee. Total apps for deer from 2019-2023:

19'- 12,519
20'- 13,606
21' - 19,484 (thanks covid)
22'- 17,396
23'- 15,929

I guess I misunderstood Randy newberg break down🤦🏻‍♂️