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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2024, 05:49:01 PM »
Bad call on his part.  Going to cost him and black eye for the hunting community.  I imagine he also isn't going to enjoy the backlash from this.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2024, 06:35:10 PM »
No, don't be quiet. The louder the hunting community is about how messed up this is the better. The fact that it's already out there and people have seen it means there's no sweeping something like this under the rug. It's not going away so the public needs to hear and read that this kind of behavior makes hunters sick and there's no place for it in the world of hunting. The hunting community should be calling for the offending individual to lose their hunting privileges for the rest of their life, period! The loudest and most fervent voices should be hunters!!!!
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This is where I’m at.

I saw this on social media this morning. Looked through lots and lots of posts. Didn’t see any from the hunting community slamming this guy. That was disappointing. This guy is a dirtbag POS. He deserves to be shamed and ridiculed everywhere.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2024, 09:25:09 PM »
Would like to take him out behind the bar and take a ball bat to him. Idiot!

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2024, 09:38:59 PM »
 I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.

 I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2024, 10:03:46 PM »

 I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

 
Too late for that. It's already out there on social media. you aren't going to make this go away by nuking this thread. The best that we can do is show that hunters are against this sort of crap.  And point out he wasn't hunting. He ran it down with a snow machine. Then incapacitated it. That has nothing to do with hunting.   This is more about misusing ATVs and snow machines than it is about hunting.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2024, 10:06:49 PM »
What a tool, in so many ways. It’ll come around for him.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2024, 11:08:41 PM »
Something doesn't seem right about the photo or the story. Here the guy has his arm around a wild wolf and it is just sitting there not making any attempt to pull away? I find that hard to believe.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2024, 11:39:52 PM »
Humptulips, I thought the same thing.   It looks photoshopped

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2024, 05:31:35 AM »
The anti-hunting crowd isn't the group hunters should be concerned with. What possible reason would a hunter care what a hypocrite thinks? You're not changing their minds because they've already proven their ability to reason has eluded them. The group that hunters need to be concerned with are non-hunters. They need to hear and see that hunters are right beside them in their disgust of behavior like this.
 And before anyone challenges the idea that an anti-hunter can't change their mind, my point is, it isn't going to happen by anything a hunter says or does. People that can't understand something as simple as, man is, will be and has been a hunter since they first put feet on the ground, isn't going to listen to a hunting story and all of a sudden go, "oh', now I get it." It's possible that some night their ancient ancestors may come to them in a dream and they'll wake up understanding, they wouldn't be here if not for hunting but don't hold your breath. That's a big leap for small minds.
 Anti-hunters aren't worth the effort. Man is only given so many hours, days and years on this earth. Don't waste it! Put your time into something attainable and take a non-hunter with you on your next adventure.
 I too, looked at the picture of the individual with the wolf and thought, huh, that doesn't look quite right but, if it's proven that the story happened as it's been portrayed, put the puke in jail and toss the key. The individual isn't fit to be free.

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2024, 05:51:17 AM »
Great opinion piece in the Cowboydaily;

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/06/rod-miller-of-wolves-and-*censored*s/

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2024, 06:05:21 AM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.

 I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
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I wasn’t even going to post. I didn’t want to perpetuate this.  But, this says exactly what I was thinking.

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Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2024, 06:39:52 AM »
Hunting community:
“This guy sucks. He’s a piece of crap!!”

Or.

Hunting community:

“      …….      “

Which comes across better?
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2024, 06:55:55 AM »
It's important for the hunting community to strongly condemn this sort of depravity,  and it has nothing to do with the antihunting crowd. It is correct that nothing we do will sway those people. It is the broad mass of non-hunters we need to reach with a message that we are conservationists, that we care about the broad spectrum of wildlife, that we have ethics.  That group of people comprises the majority of voters, and we need to keep them on our side.  The future of hunting does depend on that. :twocents:

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2024, 07:07:12 AM »
I posted this to bring awareness to it because pretending it didn't happen is never a solution, nor is it acceptable in my mind. These 3 guys committed crimes (albeit much worse) that people knew about and tried to sweep under the rug. (Let's just pretend it didn't happen) Did it get better or worse? Pretending someones not a criminal or doing awful things just lets them keep doing what they are doing. And it will only get worse! This needs to be nipped in the bud immediately and this dude needs to be made into a pariah.  :twocents:

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2024, 07:38:32 AM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.

 I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
This isn't just about how hunters message/seek credit with anti-hunters and non-hunters.   :twocents:
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