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Field judging shiras
« on: June 26, 2024, 12:04:33 PM »
Did a search and could ring really find anything. Stuff about scoring them but no real tips on applying it in the field. Been looking at pics and reading on the internet. This website seemed to help https://www.flattopswildernessguides.com/shiras-moose-field-judging/. Was wondering if any of you guys had any other tips or tricks?
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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2024, 12:46:15 PM »
Thanks for sharing , good luck with your tag …

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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2024, 01:18:45 PM »
No expert by any means, but a single eye guard will kill any score.  Deep, tall paddles, multiple fronts and width.   @benhuntin
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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2024, 01:40:23 PM »
What is your goal in judging a Shiras Moose??  Are you looking for best scoring or just a really good representative?  The two don't always go hand in hand as official scoring is different than most would think. 

I personally like large wide (individual) paddles with longer tines.  I love big brow tines.  If I was trying to judge a moose, I would go with what gets the blood pumping??  45+ inches wide would be a good moose.  General rule of thumb....ears laying flat will be approx 30" wide.  Palmation on the brows gets me excited.  Some of the best scoring moose I have been around, are kind of ugly (obviously not all)...... Tall, narrow (individual paddles) with flattened points (not deep valleys) that come off the moose's skull like big goofy ears....just don't do it for me. 

I like mass (doesn't equate to good scores), long points, width, character. 

Here are a couple that I wouldn't pass on day one...hour one...minute one.  These are Canadian Rockies moose which are a very close relative to the Shiras. 

Fist two pics are same bull....lots of mass, BIGGG BROWS, curls in as opposed to sitting flat which didn't help score. 

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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2024, 01:45:13 PM »
More traditional...flatter paddles.  Fronts are nice, but not like the previous photo.  Tall paddles that will score very well....but not as wide a paddle. 

Smaller moose in this picture is also very nice....just younger. 


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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2024, 02:19:37 PM »
I looking for tips to field judge for score. If I can field judge for score and it doesn’t score good but it gives me the willies or scores good and doesn’t give me the willies, then I can discuss that with myself at the time. I don’t really have anything in mind with this other than educating myself as much as possible before the hunt and helping for the next guy that is looking for field judging tips.
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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2024, 02:22:01 PM »
Do you know scores on those bulls?
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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2024, 02:30:55 PM »
I don't think B&C scoring is a good measurement of moose. 

When I had the tag I wanted something that had alot of eye appeal to me.  That was double or triple brows, paddles that had a good width to them and points that were off the paddle a little bit, but not super long like a deer or elk.  I did hear from talking to other hunters who had hunted moose that you wanted to look for bulls where the main beam dipped down as that was a trademark of older bulls. 

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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2024, 02:47:16 PM »
No expert by any means, but a single eye guard will kill any score.  Deep, tall paddles, multiple fronts and width.   @benhuntin
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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2024, 02:59:52 PM »
Do you know scores on those bulls?

I'll find my score sheet for the first bull and post it.  It missed making the books...but not by much.  Don't have the score for the bottom moose.  It wouldn't have made book either, but it is one heck of a bull. 

Here is a picture of another one that is super nice.  Don't have the score on this one either.  I'll be honest.....scoring animals had it's appeal at one point in my life, now it doesn't. 

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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2024, 03:49:15 PM »
There are two scoring systems. B & C and SCI.

B & C for each side paddle length + paddle width + 1 mass measurement at the smallest place between the paddle and the burr + outside width and count the points.

SCI for each side is 2 x paddle length + 2 x paddle width + 1 mass measurement at the smallest place between the paddle and the burr + outside width and add the length of the points. 

Paddle length is a big deal. Paddle length is the longest point parallel to the inside of the antler between two points on top and bottom. If you don’t have 2 or more points on your fronts you measure to the paddle. You can lose 10+ inches on each
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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2024, 04:02:06 PM »
Here is the official score sheet with the top moose.  I cropped the B&C scorer information so I wasn't publishing his address. 


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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2024, 04:11:32 PM »
No expert by any means, but a single eye guard will kill any score.  Deep, tall paddles, multiple fronts and width.   @benhuntin
Yass. A big score needs 3 eye guards.
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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2024, 04:26:35 PM »
No expert by any means, but a single eye guard will kill any score.  Deep, tall paddles, multiple fronts and width.   @benhuntin
Yass. A big score needs 3 eye guards.
Needs 2 brows. 3 is only one extra point.


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Re: Field judging shiras
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2024, 04:27:51 PM »
Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to say
 Boy he’s pretty nice and 30 yds from the road
Little weak on eye guards though :chuckle:
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