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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2025, 06:13:25 AM »
Not only are the numbers cooked the budget is nuts, $1.6 million in 2023 for a wolf budget, less than $30,000 paid out in livestock loss compensation, that is way less than 2%.  Getting the numbers right is more than counting wolves.

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2025, 07:17:38 AM »
The commission and WAG will never believe that the numbers are as high as they are. Pushing the goal posts anyhow.
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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2025, 08:00:53 AM »
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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2025, 10:14:21 AM »
The commission and WAG will never believe that the numbers are as high as they are. Pushing the goal posts anyhow.

They know exactly how high the numbers are and where the packs are, and are hiding it from the public.
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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2025, 12:29:15 PM »
Maybe they will open a trapping season for you guys, I'd love to see someone try and get one in a box trap  :chuckle: sorry not funny... But reality do you think you guys could see them creating a draw hunt for wolves giving out just a couple tags a year?
If you shoot the first one you will never get that true trophy.

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2025, 12:40:43 PM »
Maybe they will open a trapping season for you guys, I'd love to see someone try and get one in a box trap  :chuckle: sorry not funny... But reality do you think you guys could see them creating a draw hunt for wolves giving out just a couple tags a year?

Not given the current climate of hunting in this state, especially with the way the commission is stacked right now. WA hunting is in serious trouble. 

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2025, 01:46:10 PM »
The commission and WAG will never believe that the numbers are as high as they are. Pushing the goal posts anyhow.

They know exactly how high the numbers are and where the packs are, and are hiding it from the public.
I don't think they hide it from the public.
It's more like look the other way,do not acknowledge it.

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2025, 02:23:51 PM »
The commission and WAG will never believe that the numbers are as high as they are. Pushing the goal posts anyhow.

They know exactly how high the numbers are and where the packs are, and are hiding it from the public.
I don't think they hide it from the public.
It's more like look the other way,do not acknowledge it.

All due respects, but if you think they've been truthful about our cuddly wolves' population numbers, you're pretty gullible.
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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2025, 02:36:29 PM »
Sounds like sportsmen are seeing their donations, auction and raffle tag money’s worth… paid out in wolves.  If you are in any way surprised by this, you gotta be pretty slow on the uptake regarding how Washington State operates. 

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2025, 03:10:25 PM »
I head last night that they are offering rewards for information on the killing of 3 wolves. 2 in klikitat county and 1 in okanogan county. Something like 22 wolves have been killed illegally that they know about in the last few years.

Sounds to me the like the population is plenty strong enough to support a hunting season.

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2025, 03:32:12 PM »
I head last night that they are offering rewards for information on the killing of 3 wolves. 2 in klikitat county and 1 in okanogan county. Something like 22 wolves have been killed illegally that they know about in the last few years.

Sounds to me the like the population is plenty strong enough to support a hunting season.

20-25K which is big money for most folks.  I hope people keep their mouths shut!!

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2025, 04:23:51 PM »
I head last night that they are offering rewards for information on the killing of 3 wolves. 2 in klikitat county and 1 in okanogan county. Something like 22 wolves have been killed illegally that they know about in the last few years.

Sounds to me the like the population is plenty strong enough to support a hunting season.

But I thought we were told they were big coyotes?... No wolves in the area?!... I'm sooo confused..... :dunno:

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2025, 04:33:45 PM »
The commission and WAG will never believe that the numbers are as high as they are. Pushing the goal posts anyhow.

They know exactly how high the numbers are and where the packs are, and are hiding it from the public.
I don't think they hide it from the public.
It's more like look the other way,do not acknowledge it.

All due respects, but if you think they've been truthful about our cuddly wolves' population numbers, you're pretty gullible.
No I don't believe they are truthful.
I don't think they look hard for them.
Is what I meant.
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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2025, 05:25:32 PM »
I head last night that they are offering rewards for information on the killing of 3 wolves. 2 in klikitat county and 1 in okanogan county. Something like 22 wolves have been killed illegally that they know about in the last few years.

Sounds to me the like the population is plenty strong enough to support a hunting season.

But I thought we were told they were big coyotes?... No wolves in the area?!... I'm sooo confused..... :dunno:

I would have to agree. I thought there were no wolves in the western wolf management area that includes Klickitat county. Just like the one that got hit on i90 and the pack up in marblemount that they claim don’t count towards the recovery goals.  :dunno:

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Re: Wolf numbers higher than state will admit
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2025, 07:35:12 PM »
Did they ticket the driver

 


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