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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #90 on: September 05, 2024, 03:10:11 PM »
Whoever it is, I hope they push for funding to enforce illegal activities on state lands.  Dumping, illegal trail making, overharvesting and illegal harvesting of forest products, timber theft, illegal camping, etc are rampant on much of DNR's lands that are not locked behind gates on the westside.

Illegal trail making?

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #91 on: September 05, 2024, 03:15:57 PM »
Policy wise what is the big difference between having an R or a D for this position? Access? Land swaps?

I have to admit that I really don't know a ton about the role of a public lands commisioner.
It is a gross simplification, but I would say the primary difference is in how each party views human impact on our natural resources. Republicans say humans can benefit the ecosystem; Democrats view humans as destructive forces that need to be restricted.

The first round of covid restrictions kicked off in April 2020, and they shut down access to all state owned public lands. I have a tract of DNR near my house that had a deputy posted at it turning away mountain bikers, I had to walk a whole quarter mile further down the road just to get onto the trail.

In the day-to-day the simplification is mostly the truth, but its hard to predict what will happen and what responses will be. All we really have for that is party policy.
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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #92 on: September 05, 2024, 03:26:13 PM »
Whoever it is, I hope they push for funding to enforce illegal activities on state lands.  Dumping, illegal trail making, overharvesting and illegal harvesting of forest products, timber theft, illegal camping, etc are rampant on much of DNR's lands that are not locked behind gates on the westside.

Illegal trail making?

When mountain bike groups as well as motorcycles and atv's create their own developed trails through the woods. 

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #93 on: September 05, 2024, 04:03:46 PM »
Timber harvest from state lands for funding schools is the big one, which supports jobs in the woods and rural communities.

This makes some sense as does access. I had a neighbor go off on Franz a few years ago because access to DNR roads had been restricted in our area and he liked to take his jeep in. I have some DNR employee friends (foresters). I guess that I will ask them as well.

Thank you.

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2024, 04:20:47 PM »
Go to upgroves website, at least before the primarys, it was a joke. Inclusivity in the woods, highest position for a gay man in washington state etc. He's definitely more restrictive on logging and protecting there new climate worry, ( legendary forests or something like that.

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #95 on: September 06, 2024, 07:35:50 PM »
Doesn't Upthegrove want to create housing for homeless people on state lands?

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #96 on: September 06, 2024, 08:34:49 PM »
Does anyone feel the GOP lawsuit against King County will gather traction and stop Upthegrove?

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #97 on: September 06, 2024, 08:48:49 PM »
No.

What would be the result? How do you choose how those 2000 votes, if they are to be removed, would be proportioned?

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/climate-lab/wa-gop-suing-king-county-elections-over-commissioner-of-public-lands-primary-results/

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #98 on: September 07, 2024, 08:03:33 AM »
I also say it will have no bearing on the final outcome. In this state it would be extremely hard, if not impossible to get a judge to rule in your favor on this. Even if it would be the correct ruling.

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #99 on: September 07, 2024, 08:15:24 AM »
Does anyone feel the GOP lawsuit against King County will gather traction and stop Upthegrove?

Every penny of that lawsuit would be better spent on JHB's campaign, particularly trying to activate east side democrats to come around to supporting her. I think breaking a part the coring demographics into smaller audiences and targeted messaging could still make it possible to elect her instead of upthegrove
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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #100 on: September 07, 2024, 08:34:20 AM »
Maybe the GOP is also looking at the long term impact of King County voters having that option when other counties voters do not? Would the election have been in Pederson's favor if that option was afforded all the other counties voters in the state? Seems pretty unfair to me!
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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #101 on: September 07, 2024, 08:48:38 AM »
Maybe the GOP is also looking at the long term impact of King County voters having that option when other counties voters do not? Would the election have been in Pederson's favor if that option was afforded all the other counties voters in the state? Seems pretty unfair to me!

Who says only King has that option?


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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #102 on: September 07, 2024, 08:51:15 AM »
Maybe the GOP is also looking at the long term impact of King County voters having that option when other counties voters do not? Would the election have been in Pederson's favor if that option was afforded all the other counties voters in the state? Seems pretty unfair to me!

Who says only King has that option?

I thought that was implied, has anyone said King isn't the only county with that option?
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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #103 on: September 07, 2024, 08:52:11 AM »
Maybe the GOP is also looking at the long term impact of King County voters having that option when other counties voters do not? Would the election have been in Pederson's favor if that option was afforded all the other counties voters in the state? Seems pretty unfair to me!

Who says only King has that option?

I thought that was implied, has anyone said King isn't the only county with that option?

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Re: Commissioner of Public Lands 2024
« Reply #104 on: September 07, 2024, 08:54:45 AM »
Maybe the GOP is also looking at the long term impact of King County voters having that option when other counties voters do not? Would the election have been in Pederson's favor if that option was afforded all the other counties voters in the state? Seems pretty unfair to me!

Who says only King has that option?

I thought that was implied, has anyone said King isn't the only county with that option?

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https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?Cite=29A.60.165

So what are you saying?
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