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[time2hunt]

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[HillHound]

Doesn’t surprise me. So many bears and cougars eating fawns and calves the cows are probably easier for the wolves

[2MANY]

Anyone that doesn't promote BLM grazing is either jealous or Blue.

[Feathernfurr]

Or they’re tired of cattle grazers mooching off government land and ruining their hunting spots 🤷🏼‍♂️

[nwwanderer]

Log it, graze it or watch it burn.  Grazing is a BLM tool that can benefit everyone.  Wolves on the other hand..............

[Feathernfurr]

I’d rather have an abundance of elk on the landscape. I’ve seen far too much elk and deer habitat destroyed by cattle due to over grazing and improper rotation of grazing allotments. Not to mention the ones that ignore allotments all together and cut barbwire. If it was up to me elk would be restored to all of their historical range along with bison. Cattleman can keep their cattle to their thousands of acres of private property. I’m interested in hunting, not eating beef and lining someone else pockets.

[time2hunt]

Why did you delete my post this is a person with no post count and stirring the pot.


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[PsoasHunter]

That's a pretty awful picture for anyone who raises livestock, my grandparents raised dairy cattle and this would be a nightmare for them.

Genuinely curious, what are the benefits of grazing to the public? I've never thought about it.  I saw the comment about fire suppression, but don't understand that given what cows eat.

[Feathernfurr]

Grazing removes fuel, less fuel, less intense fires. When done responsibly and with a scientific approach. Nature does this on its own when it has good populations of grazing ungulates. There are plenty of places that don’t allow cattle grazing, supports thousands of ungulates, and have healthy fire cycles.  But, overgrazing and soil compaction from cattle run rampant in most of the blm and forest service land that I’ve walked thousands of miles in. I’m not stirring the pot, but I also won’t stand aside and be called jealous or blue because I’d rather prioritize healthy public lands with better hunting opportunities.

Many states would have much larger elk and deer populations, especially states with reintroduced elk populations, if it wasn’t for push back from the cattleman associations fighting wildlife agencies over the threat of wildlife to their herds and grazing rights.

I’m sure there are good cattle farmers out there. My experience on public ground has been nearly 100% negative. I’m tired of the “woah is me, my poor cattle family” from ranchers who own hundreds and thousands of acres, and destroy the public land that self reliant folks depend on.

[Platensek-po]

I’d rather have an abundance of elk on the landscape. I’ve seen far too much elk and deer habitat destroyed by cattle due to over grazing and improper rotation of grazing allotments. Not to mention the ones that ignore allotments all together and cut barbwire. If it was up to me elk would be restored to all of their historical range along with bison. Cattleman can keep their cattle to their thousands of acres of private property. I’m interested in hunting, not eating beef and lining someone else pockets.

This. The whole reason we don’t have bison is because of cattle. All these leftists care about is predators but no one ever talks about bringing back bison. I’ve seen lots of good campsites ruined by cattle that were not supposed to be there. Not too mention the problems of cheatgrass taking over a bunch of areas.

[Rainier10]

Tagging along.  I have seen three wolves recently in Wilson creek drainage, one male with a collar, one male without a collar and one female without a collar. All three in same area. Lots of cattle grazing happening in that area.

[pianoman9701]

Or they’re tired of cattle grazers mooching off government land and ruining their hunting spots 🤷🏼‍♂️

Log it, graze it, or watch it burn. Cattle grazing represents one of the foremost wildfire deterrents on public land.

[bornhunter]

Doesnt a single horn on each side of a nice fat steers head in Colockum qualify as a true spike? 

[Rainier10]

WSU assessed our land and recommended a ten year break at least from grazing. The cattle had been brought in too early and left too long for multiple years by the rancher. Natural grass had been destroyed, weeds and sage brush had taken over creating more fuel for a fire than the natural grass.

Just like hunting it needs to regulated to have a sustainable habitat. Over hunting and overgrazing both are detrimental to the habitat in my opinion.

[bornhunter]

WSU assessed our land and recommended a ten year break at least from grazing. The cattle had been brought in too early and left too long for multiple years by the rancher. Natural grass had been destroyed, weeds and sage brush had taken over creating more fuel for a fire than the natural grass.

Just like hunting it needs to regulated to have a sustainable habitat. Over hunting and overgrazing both are detrimental to the habitat in my opinion.