How long is a site "baited"?

[YoungFowler]

I have a site with a tree stand that I'm baiting with fruit for deer. I've had some bears on camera and I'm unclear on when a site is considered baited? I'm familiar with the migratory game bird regulations saying 10 days after the bait is removed until that area is no longer baited, but I'm not finding any specifics in WAC 220-414-030 on removing deer bait from the area to hunt bears. RCW 77.15.245, pertaining to unlawful bear hunting practices doesn't have much for specifics either. If I remove bait now can I hunt bears next week, next year, a mile away, etc... Any insight into proximity/timing of hunting bears around where I have been baiting deer? Thanks

[Feathernfurr]

I’d be curious the answer to this as well.

[fowl smacker]

Email wdfw and get the answer in writing.

[MADMAX]

I wouldn’t make it so hard. I’d clean up all the fruit and rake it and it’s no longer baited.

[hunter399]

I wouldn’t make it so hard. I’d clean up all the fruit and rake it and it’s no longer baited.

No attractant,no longer baited.

[addicted1]

Please do let us know their response. If there is no bait, no station. It’s not a bait site in my eyes. But, I also don’t use apples for bait due to bears always finding it.

[Farmer72]

At one time there was a definition in the regs but I think that was a long time back. There is a 10 day rule for USFW for baiting for waterfoul and I believe that is what was in the state when it was in the regs. but who knows now since there is not definition listed now and they can just make it up as they go along/suits them.

[Machias]

There is NO set timeframe.  I've asked this question of WDFW before.  If the bait/attractant that was placed there before is still attracting bears and the WDFW was aware of the bait site, then you could be charged.  Doesn't matter when you cleaned it up or how well you cleaned it up.

[MeepDog]

If I put gallons of apples out and pull them the day before season and shoot a bear, I'd deserve a ticket. If I pull them a month before, they still be able to ticket me. The best that I understand it, is if a bear is at all influenced by a bait site, that bear is off limits.

I've seen tree stands with molasses filled deer blocks under them in bear country, and if you kill a bear from that stand there's a very good case against you.

[J-Bone]

what kind of dogs do you have? If you don't have hounds, I think that is going to be compelling. I mean for the most part, I think hunting a bear with a dog or two that is not a hound, would actually be an impediment.

while you are hunting, you and your wife should take photos that will be timestamped so you can prove that you are in different locations at different times. I'd also recommend not hiking out together...

[Blacktail Sniper]

what kind of dogs do you have? If you don't have hounds, I think that is going to be compelling. I mean for the most part, I think hunting a bear with a dog or two that is not a hound, would actually be an impediment.

while you are hunting, you and your wife should take photos that will be timestamped so you can prove that you are in different locations at different times. I'd also recommend not hiking out together...

 

[huntnnw]

what kind of dogs do you have? If you don't have hounds, I think that is going to be compelling. I mean for the most part, I think hunting a bear with a dog or two that is not a hound, would actually be an impediment.

while you are hunting, you and your wife should take photos that will be timestamped so you can prove that you are in different locations at different times. I'd also recommend not hiking out together...

what? 

[hunter399]

what kind of dogs do you have? If you don't have hounds, I think that is going to be compelling. I mean for the most part, I think hunting a bear with a dog or two that is not a hound, would actually be an impediment.

while you are hunting, you and your wife should take photos that will be timestamped so you can prove that you are in different locations at different times. I'd also recommend not hiking out together...

what? 

What....what.
Ya not sure what this post was about.

[millerwheeler]

It they form the habit to coming in it’s baiting per last warden I spoke too

[Mtnwalker]

what kind of dogs do you have? If you don't have hounds, I think that is going to be compelling. I mean for the most part, I think hunting a bear with a dog or two that is not a hound, would actually be an impediment.

while you are hunting, you and your wife should take photos that will be timestamped so you can prove that you are in different locations at different times. I'd also recommend not hiking out together...

what? 

What....what.
Ya not sure what this post was about.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,287590.msg3909968/topicseen.html#new

[LDennis24]

Bear Sausage and Apples
Serves 2 generously

Ingredients
3 tablespoons butter
4 fully-cooked bear sausages, sliced
1 medium onion, sliced
1-2 medium-sized tart apples, such as Granny Smith, peeled, cored, and coarsely chopped
1 cup apple cider or apple juice
1 tablespoon chopped fresh thyme, or to taste
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice, or to taste
salt
pepper

Directions
Melt 1 tablespoon butter in large skillet over medium heat. Add bear sausages and cook until they are beginning to brown, turning occasionally, about 5 minutes. Add onion and apple to the bear sausages and cook until the onion and apple are tender and brown, stirring often, about 5 minutes.

Add apple cider and chopped thyme. Increase heat to high, and stir until liquid is slightly reduced, for about 2 minutes. Stir in lemon juice. Season to taste with salt and pepper.

Using a slotted spoon, transfer onion and apple and bear sausage to plates, dividing equally. Whisk the remaining 2 tablespoons butter into the cider mixture in the skillet. Season the sauce to taste with salt and pepper. Drizzle the sauce over the bear sausages, and serve with mashed potatoes.

[addicted1]

what kind of dogs do you have? If you don't have hounds, I think that is going to be compelling. I mean for the most part, I think hunting a bear with a dog or two that is not a hound, would actually be an impediment.

while you are hunting, you and your wife should take photos that will be timestamped so you can prove that you are in different locations at different times. I'd also recommend not hiking out together...

I’ll translate for this post:
Can’t hunt with hounds, but dogs are okay. Per RCW 77.15.245 you cannot bait or use hounds. Not all dogs are hounds, but all hounds are dogs.

You will likely have greater success if you split up your group to hunt, take some photos and leave the bait at home.

[Mtnwalker]

what kind of dogs do you have? If you don't have hounds, I think that is going to be compelling. I mean for the most part, I think hunting a bear with a dog or two that is not a hound, would actually be an impediment.

while you are hunting, you and your wife should take photos that will be timestamped so you can prove that you are in different locations at different times. I'd also recommend not hiking out together...

I’ll translate for this post:
Can’t hunt with hounds, but dogs are okay. Per RCW 77.15.245 you cannot bait or use hounds. Not all dogs are hounds, but all hounds are dogs.

You will likely have greater success if you split up your group to hunt, take some photos and leave the bait at home.

This is all in the wrong thread anyways, but let's not spread bad info here. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, the RCW clearly says dogs not hounds

[YoungFowler]

I'm so confused, I think we got side tracked with the Dog thread right next to this one.

Anyway, all good thoughts. I agree to err on the side of caution, and if there's any chance that bear is influenced by the current or cleaned up bait, then it's off-limits.

[LDennis24]

I tried to help by posting a recipe but nobody appreciated it

[Nate Ortloff]

I appreciated it! Made me laugh.

[dilleytech]

I wouldn’t make it so hard. I’d clean up all the fruit and rake it and it’s no longer baited.

No attractant,no longer baited.

Scent is a bait. If there was bait, then there still is bait.

Try explaining to the game warden that the bear came into the spot that’s all dug out from deer for no reason. Your best legal bet is to remove the bait and move the stand to an area there there a bear trail you can sit on.