Trichinosis research

[ganghis]

So I cooked up some black bear chorizo as part of my breakfast this morning and thought "hmmm - I probably should have cooked this longer."  Which got me into doing a brief web search...since it had been in the deep freeze for almost 2 years, does that mean it would be fine either way? 

Kind of depends on the species.  What I can see from skimming this

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213224424000300

it seems like we're at a bit of an intersection in Washington between freeze-resistant strains of Trich (like would be in Alaska and northern Canada) and the strains of Trich that get killed by freezing very easily (like in the south).  Although it looks like one of the freeze-tolerant strains of Trich (T6) was found in northern CA in a black bear and in ID in a lion.  Anyways, my conclusion was you'd be fine freezing bear meat for 3 weeks and then eating it rare if you harvested it in the southern US, but that you'd better still cook the hell out of it to be sure if it's from WA or the Rockies or something.  Anyway, thought folks might be interested - had no idea there were multiple species.

[jrebel]

You went down the rabbit hole of googling something!!!  Worst thing ever.  I’m not sure I have a stance on freezing time and trichinosis…..but I’m sure you will be fine.  Trichinosis is killed at 137 degrees Fahrenheit.   The magic 160 is so people heat the middle of a roast or steak to to at least the 137.  In sausage…..I’m sure you got to 137 or above for a few minutes.

Back to the googling….    I recently had two bats 🦇 bounce off my arm.  I’m a medic and know what rabies will do to you.  I knew my risk was low based on the type of exposure.   I googled it!!      Today is the third shot in the rabies vaccine (series of 4 shots).  After googling it, my anxiety went through the roof!!!! It legit f’ed me up.   Never google this stufffff…..just talk with your physician to get the real facts.   I haven’t sprouted wings yet so my anxiety is slowly diminishing. 

[Loup Loup]

I’d never heard of the two types either, Ganghis. I’ve never heard that freezing would kill trich. I can most of my bear meat, which gets it up to temp to kill trich. I have read that a person should be careful with jerky and sausage that it gets to 160 degrees.

[ganghis]

You went down the rabbit hole of googling something!!!  Worst thing ever.  I’m not sure I have a stance on freezing time and trichinosis…..but I’m sure you will be fine.  Trichinosis is killed at 137 degrees Fahrenheit.   The magic 160 is so people heat the middle of a roast or steak to to at least the 137.  In sausage…..I’m sure you got to 137 or above for a few minutes.

Back to the googling….    I recently had two bats 🦇 bounce off my arm.  I’m a medic and know what rabies will do to you.  I knew my risk was low based on the type of exposure.   I googled it!!      Today is the third shot in the rabies vaccine (series of 4 shots).  After googling it, my anxiety went through the roof!!!! It legit f’ed me up.   Never google this stufffff…..just talk with your physician to get the real facts.   I haven’t sprouted wings yet so my anxiety is slowly diminishing. 

Awesome, yeah wasn't super concerned but that puts my mind at ease.

Man those rabies shots look like no joke!  Good luck with that!

[dilleytech]

Such a wormhole to try to research. But one things clear you don’t have to cook the hell out of it. The whole 165 thing is our governments overly cautious safety guidelines.