Tribes hunting Elbe hills wa

[Hunt to live]

So I  just recently learned but I'm trying to get confirmation i was told that the tribes regular modern firearm elk season ended the Sunday of the opener of early muzzle loader elk season. I was also told that they have the keys to open all gates that are locked to the regular public. This location im talking about is the Elbe hills just out side eatonville wa. Can anyone clarify if this is all true. I can't seem to find anything on the net. Concerned hunter

[addicted1]

If there’s a lock on a gate I can promise you that someone has keys, tribes, non-tribes. Gates don’t mean anything these days. As for tribal hunting I think their season are pretty liberal and especially around puyallup, muckleshoot, Snoqualmie tribal lands. Not sure you what their policies are, but I am sure someone here can tell you.

[MADMAX]

No surprise

[hunthard]

100% they have keys to the gate.

[pianoman9701]

I don't understand why you're a "concerned hunter". Gates can be locked for any number of reasons and people can have keys for those gates, also for any number of reasons. I have keys to locked gates because I'm a disabled hunter. Does that concern you? And who told you this about the Indians? Are you sure it's reliable info? And if so, are you sure it's having any kind of negative impact on your personal hunting experience? If you're unsure this is reliable info, have you confirmed with official sources like the DFW?

It's easy to bash Indians. However, it's not always as easy to justify doing so.

[baker5150]

I don't understand why you're a "concerned hunter". Gates can be locked for any number of reasons and people can have keys for those gates, also for any number of reasons. I have keys to locked gates because I'm a disabled hunter. Does that concern you? And who told you this about the Indians? Are you sure it's reliable info? And if so, are you sure it's having any kind of negative impact on your personal hunting experience? If you're unsure this is reliable info, have you confirmed with official sources like the DFW?

It's easy to bash Indians. However, it's not always as easy to justify doing so.

FWIW (not trying to answer for the OP)

I hunt with a Tribal fella who looks as white as snow.   He gets called on all-the-time for being in areas, carrying certain weapons, at certain times, etc.

These are mostly concerned hunters calling because they see what is interpreted as a poacher, not a legit Tribal hunter.

He takes it as a positive.  Guys are looking out for the resource, and he appreciates that, and so do I.

[GWP]

Some years back but I knew a Tribe member that told be he had keys for the gates. He had a ring with probably 50 keys on it.
Since there are Tribal agreements in place I have no issue with it.

[Whitefoot]

 

I don't understand why you're a "concerned hunter". Gates can be locked for any number of reasons and people can have keys for those gates, also for any number of reasons. I have keys to locked gates because I'm a disabled hunter. Does that concern you? And who told you this about the Indians? Are you sure it's reliable info? And if so, are you sure it's having any kind of negative impact on your personal hunting experience? If you're unsure this is reliable info, have you confirmed with official sources like the DFW?

It's easy to bash Indians. However, it's not always as easy to justify doing so.

[Katmai Guy]

I don't understand why you're a "concerned hunter". Gates can be locked for any number of reasons and people can have keys for those gates, also for any number of reasons. I have keys to locked gates because I'm a disabled hunter. Does that concern you? And who told you this about the Indians? Are you sure it's reliable info? And if so, are you sure it's having any kind of negative impact on your personal hunting experience? If you're unsure this is reliable info, have you confirmed with official sources like the DFW?

It's easy to bash Indians. However, it's not always as easy to justify doing so.

Bad day guys?  No where in the OP's post did he bash Indians.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was trying to decide whether or not to hunt behind the gates if it had already been hit hard, maybe he knows where the elk go after being hunted hard and pushed out of the area behind the gates and was trying to decide where to hunt.
  If it's only about how he signed the post, triggered easily?

[Buzzsaw461]

 

I don't understand why you're a "concerned hunter". Gates can be locked for any number of reasons and people can have keys for those gates, also for any number of reasons. I have keys to locked gates because I'm a disabled hunter. Does that concern you? And who told you this about the Indians? Are you sure it's reliable info? And if so, are you sure it's having any kind of negative impact on your personal hunting experience? If you're unsure this is reliable info, have you confirmed with official sources like the DFW?

It's easy to bash Indians. However, it's not always as easy to justify doing so.

Bad day guys?  No where in the OP's post did he bash Indians.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was trying to decide whether or not to hunt behind the gates if it had already been hit hard, maybe he knows where the elk go after being hunted hard and pushed out of the area behind the gates and was trying to decide where to hunt.
  If it's only about how he signed the post, triggered easily?

[pianoman9701]

I don't understand why you're a "concerned hunter". Gates can be locked for any number of reasons and people can have keys for those gates, also for any number of reasons. I have keys to locked gates because I'm a disabled hunter. Does that concern you? And who told you this about the Indians? Are you sure it's reliable info? And if so, are you sure it's having any kind of negative impact on your personal hunting experience? If you're unsure this is reliable info, have you confirmed with official sources like the DFW?

It's easy to bash Indians. However, it's not always as easy to justify doing so.

Bad day guys?  No where in the OP's post did he bash Indians.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was trying to decide whether or not to hunt behind the gates if it had already been hit hard, maybe he knows where the elk go after being hunted hard and pushed out of the area behind the gates and was trying to decide where to hunt.
  If it's only about how he signed the post, triggered easily?

Nope, not a bad day. These threads frequently turn into Indian bashing, rarely based on actual data or facts. We have hundreds of such threads. He's "concerned" because he heard that Indians have keys to unlock all of the gates but not the regular public. How does he know this? He was told. I was told yesterday that the Earth was flat. I did some research and decided not to post it to the interwebs.

[JBar]

Some people ask questions to be educated or enlightened on the subject. In turn that question gets flipped to be tribal bashing rather than just have the question answered and move on. They have tribal rights and just because someone doesn’t agree with some of them or doesn’t know all their rights doesn’t make them a basher!! Do these threads get out of hand absolutely but not all.

[Special T]

We may be at the point now where it benefits sportsmen for tribes to have keys. Hopefully point Elliot Tibal signers start running hounds on areas they can to reduce the overall impact. Sportsmen might be able to make the most impact by encouraging tribal members to hunt cats. I have had mixed feeling on certain tribal harvests. I now belive that tribal harvest of predators might be our only hope.

[bullcanyon]

Well it is a fact that the tribes have access to lands via motorized vehicles that the general public cannot even access on an electric bike. I'm not basing this on a second hand report. This is first hand on state land near Ashford that I had hiked into and run into tribal members driving the rds. We had a conversation and they told me they had access to pretty much everything in the area. There  is also a chunk of land near mineral managed by green diamond that the squaxin tribe has sole access to. It is frustrating to the general public to be denied access to these areas as well as being micromanaged by the state. Not much we can do unless we can convince the dnr to open all areas up to the general public so we all can enjoy the resources we pay for🤷

[Buckhunter24]

Most of the gated roads up there are pretty short stretches. They provide some escapement, but all that ground is easily hunted on foot.

I'm certain people dumping garbage and stolen vehicles is the main reason behind the gates up there. It is the first big chunk of public ground for all those coming from Spanaway Puyallup Tacoma etc.

[Taco280AI]

Have some good memories driving up logging roads to scout with my gramps back in the day. Can't drive any of those same roads today.

[Buzzsaw461]

Well it is a fact that the tribes have access to lands via motorized vehicles that the general public cannot even access on an electric bike. I'm not basing this on a second hand report. This is first hand on state land near Ashford that I had hiked into and run into tribal members driving the rds. We had a conversation and they told me they had access to pretty much everything in the area. There  is also a chunk of land near mineral managed by green diamond that the squaxin tribe has sole access to. It is frustrating to the general public to be denied access to these areas as well as being micromanaged by the state. Not much we can do unless we can convince the dnr to open all areas up to the general public so we all can enjoy the resources we pay for🤷

Totally agree with you.

[Streamer]

Well… the Nisqually Tribe does own several thousand acres to turn north of the DNR land that isn’t a part of Hancock. So yeah, they are hunting Elbe Hills.


Streamer

[MAVsled]

set TRUMP on them....but of course they'd just pay him off  and receive even more tribal hunting rights.

[Meathunter06]

set TRUMP on them....but of course they'd just pay him off  and receive even more tribal hunting rights.

[Taco280AI]

set TRUMP on them....but of course they'd just pay him off  and receive even more tribal hunting rights.

You have Tru... confused with the bought and paid for Bid... crime family. Not a pol.... post in any way, I'm just rambling on about nothing 

[timberhunter]

Last year a family member drew an ada access permit. While we were in the unit looking around prior to the season we talked with tribal cop who informed us that tribal members had keys to the same gates and their season had opened August 1st for elk. It’s pathetic that Wdfw has  a disabled access permit system and doesn’t mention any of it.

[HillHound]

It’s pathetic that they market any of these as quality limited entry hunts. These are wide open unlimited hunts for many

[haus]

So I  just recently learned but I'm trying to get confirmation i was told that the tribes regular modern firearm elk season ended the Sunday of the opener of early muzzle loader elk season. I was also told that they have the keys to open all gates that are locked to the regular public. This location im talking about is the Elbe hills just out side eatonville wa. Can anyone clarify if this is all true. I can't seem to find anything on the net. Concerned hunter

Yes, I don’t know what their season dates are, but they hunt road hunt behind some of those gates regularly during archery season.

[bkaech]

One thing to note, as you ask about season dates and access of the "tribes", the tribes are individual nations managed independently of each other. Each tribe manages their own hunting in their own way, some are more liberal than others. Therefore to answer your question you would have to reach out to each individual tribe in the state and ask what there seasons/laws are for hunting, and how they obtain access to that area. I would assume there ares some similarities but the reason you can't get a straight answer is because each tribe is different.