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Skyvalhunter
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Re: Cougar season closures
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October 17, 2024, 08:20:32 PM »
Time to petition to do away with the quota and let the commission explain their reasons which are not legit
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Re: Cougar season closures
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October 17, 2024, 10:06:36 PM »
People are just going to kill cats and find the unit that’s open and report it. Screw the game commission and screw helping them bring an end to our hunting. I know We aren’t supposed to promote unlawful stuff, but What the game commission is doing is unlawful. Make sure to take advantage of the time you have to report. Don’t tell them the day you kill so everyone can have 2 or 3 more days of hunting if it is the cat that closes the season
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We just had a cat in our field in West Valley in Yakima. I didn’t get to see him personally but ran out to find him and couldn’t right before dark tonight. Would have been the second cat I would have added to the Cowiche quota this year. Which is stupid, because the cat I killed in April was supposed to be part of the leftover quota from 23’. But with their new rules it’s counting towards this year🤦🏻
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October 22, 2024, 02:59:25 PM »
GMU 121 Closed today.
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October 22, 2024, 07:04:16 PM »
GMU 101 closed today. I was hoping to get the neighborhood cat over Thanksgiving. WDFW is a little out of touch with the populations in the NE if they think these tiny quotas are truly the "intrinsic growth rate".
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October 22, 2024, 07:43:12 PM »
This managing by WAG quota is a waste of a resource 3X. First a deer/elk hunter will shoot a cougar as the opportunity presents. Then the phone number will be called. If the quota for that unit is filled the cat will be left to waste. Second, when a nuisance cougar is taken by the State bankrolled, Black Ops houndsmen, that cat is disposed of, probably in the dump. Thirdly, as more of the public is made to feel that they have no say in the management of THEIR game herds, and, or, the safety of their family or animals, whether real or perceived, they take matters into their own hands. Cougars are shot on sight and are left where they lay, or draped over the barbwire fence.
Only the maggots, and WDFW enforcement stand a chance to profit.
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What unit did you kill it in? "The one that's open.."
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Re: Cougar season closures
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October 22, 2024, 09:22:31 PM »
Ridiculous!
What a joke.
Probably not buying a tag next year. Since we will never have a season that's worth a 💩.
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Quote from: Cougartail on October 22, 2024, 08:56:49 PM
What unit did you kill it in? "The one that's open.."
Legit right there.
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October 22, 2024, 10:38:46 PM »
I think a lot of people still don’t understand that the commission changed what counts towards the quota this year. Road kill and depredations now count in addition to hunters take. The quotas haven’t changed just what counts towards them. These early closures are the result.
The commission is effectively limiting hunting opportunity. The department isn’t responsible for this, their just living with the new rules like we are. End result is less cats killed, less opportunity for hunters, and more people drop out. The Commission wins.
As far as just choosing any open unit. They take dna samples when you check in your cat. Whether they do anything with it is another question. I won’t risk it. Not worth it.
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October 23, 2024, 10:42:00 AM »
With this change in quota system the majority of the commission has virtually closed cougar to licensed hunters. Still open to paid Black Ops houndsmen.
Another thing this quota system does is the amount of kills that will not be reported to WDFW. Or will be reported to have happens in another unit. Therefore their population model gets even further out of wack by not being able to quantify mortality. It’s a cycle of complete failure. And the resource pays the price of mismanagement.
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October 23, 2024, 10:47:12 AM »
Being able to "quantify mortality" is not even within the scope of what the commissioners that pushed this agenda seek. It's another small step in
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October 23, 2024, 10:51:18 AM »
Can a game warden issue a depredation tag that exceeds the quota if a landowner can prove there are to many cats running around their property??
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