WA DNR Seeking Approval to Transfer Thousands of Acres to Tribes

[Bareback]

DNR at one time was a revenue generating branch of the government. Now, with the current management regime, it’s tax sucking cancer.

Actually compared to most agencies DNR is still pretty budget neutral. In FY23 they brought in $475,000,000 which almost all goes to schools. They spent $513,000,000 of which $153,000,000 was fire suppression.

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Some might consider 38 million in the red as neutral.

Does the expenditures include payroll, benefits and retirement payouts too?

[bigtex]

DNR at one time was a revenue generating branch of the government. Now, with the current management regime, it’s tax sucking cancer.

Actually compared to most agencies DNR is still pretty budget neutral. In FY23 they brought in $475,000,000 which almost all goes to schools. They spent $513,000,000 of which $153,000,000 was fire suppression.

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Some might consider 38 million in the red as neutral.

Does the expenditures include payroll, benefits and retirement payouts too?

Yes the expenditures include payroll, benefits, etc.

DNR is the only state agency that even comes close to breaking even. When the state was still in the liquor selling business the Liquor Control Board was the only agency that was truly budget neutral.

[Caseyd]

DNR at one time was a revenue generating branch of the government. Now, with the current management regime, it’s tax sucking cancer.

Actually compared to most agencies DNR is still pretty budget neutral. In FY23 they brought in $475,000,000 which almost all goes to schools. They spent $513,000,000 of which $153,000,000 was fire suppression.

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Some might consider 38 million in the red as neutral.

Does the expenditures include payroll, benefits and retirement payouts too?

Yes the expenditures include payroll, benefits, etc.

DNR is the only state agency that even comes close to breaking even. When the state was still in the liquor selling business the Liquor Control Board was the only agency that was truly budget neutral.

Liquor and Cannabis board collects cannabis excise tax from retailers. One could argue they have an tremendous budget surplus

[hunter399]

If it's landlocked,with no possibility of corner crossing.
Then ya give it to the tribe .
If it's accessible to the public ,then give it to Forest service, BLM,or some other organizations that will keep public access available.

On the other side of the coin,was this land profitable,"clear-cut".
Then disregarded and throw away dumpster baby. Cause it's easy to to buy and sell/trade/giveaway vs reforestation.

I'm on the side of keeping lands open to the public vs a buying and selling/trade /giveaway monopoly with the tribe.

[hughjorgan]

I don’t like the idea of giving the tribes public land but in this case with the yakama tribe it appears the sections being given to them are on their reservation that border the cowiche unit. Not even sure the land was accessible to the public anyways.

[JimmyHoffa]

Any stipulations as if it can/can't go into tribal trust for petition for rez land?

[huntingfool7]

The tribes are "sovereign nations".  How does this qualify?  Essentially DNR is giving land to a foreign, separate nation.

[bigtex]

I don’t like the idea of giving the tribes public land but in this case with the yakama tribe it appears the sections being given to them are on their reservation that border the cowiche unit. Not even sure the land was accessible to the public anyways.

There's three different applications for the Yakama in three different sections. Two of the applications are for checkerboarded DNR-Tribe lands, the other is completely blocked up DNR land that is 100% open to the public.

[bigtex]

Any stipulations as if it can/can't go into tribal trust for petition for rez land?

No

[boneaddict]

Should get the language correct.  NOT selling to a sovereign nation.  GIVING

[boneaddict]

Do we have any say in the matter?

[Skyvalhunter]

The land in the Beckler drainage was originally weyco who then sold it to Campbell aka Skykomish resources. They in turn logged it and replanted it. Then it came up for sale and the Tulalips bought it up. Part of it burned in the Bolt cr fire. To say it was DNR land is not right. It is DNR monitored land as far as any forest practices/fire fighting but it was not DNR land as far as ownership.
The part that I don't agree with is they put up a gate on a forest service road because the tribe and Skykomish resources doesn't want people driving in it. Even though the land borders USFS land which is wilderness area(wild sky). I contend it should be opened to public access because the road is an avenue to public land. Believe me I have went around with the forest service and got my area representive involved.

[boneaddict]

Do you know what parcel they are talking about on the Methow?

[Skyvalhunter]

I sure don't at least not yet.

[boneaddict]

https://methowvalleynews.com/2024/09/19/dnr-riverfront-parcel-south-of-twisp-could-go-to-colville-tribes/