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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2024, 06:26:37 AM »
So tribes can now gate land they see fit...in the name of stewardship and protection from over use by legal user groups... because the FS is broke... interesting concept.

Who gets the keys...

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Oversimplification of complex issues.  Underfunded federal agencies need funding.

It's actually quite simple....
Is funding and land management complex . Yes.
Is gating property you don't own and controlling the access complex. NO
Can you not see why people are frustrated and angry about issues like this.
Or is the "complexity" of the situation justification enough.

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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2024, 07:53:59 AM »
Any time you throw the tribes in for this state it's simple they do what they want. Now the reason they can is complex. I have yet to get any replies back in the many emails I sent out asking for justification.
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2024, 08:24:23 AM »
So tribes can now gate land they see fit...in the name of stewardship and protection from over use by legal user groups... because the FS is broke... interesting concept.

Who gets the keys...

NVRMND
Oversimplification of complex issues.  Underfunded federal agencies need funding.

It's actually quite simple....
Is funding and land management complex . Yes.
Is gating property you don't own and controlling the access complex. NO
Can you not see why people are frustrated and angry about issues like this.
Or is the "complexity" of the situation justification enough.
I think I'll take a break from this topic for a minute as I really dont think it's productive for me to attempt. I will say that hunters are a small subset and caught in the crossfire to an extent.  The complexities are more in the arena of homelessness,  drug use,  theft and other illegal activities on one end of the spectrum and the complete other end, but just a large of an impact is over use by the non consumptive crowd.  These public lands cannot handle the level of use across agencies.  We (myself included) tend to don blinders in our advocacy of what we're passionate or care deeply about.  So continue on with your wrong titled thread and your continued call to action in many negative ways.  I digress,  have a great day.

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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2024, 12:42:25 PM »
Simple. Go rip the gates out. It’s not the tribes land to lock up :twocents:
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2024, 03:09:40 PM »
Simple. Go rip the gates out. It’s not the tribes land to lock up :twocents:

Yeah, do it.. lol
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2024, 03:22:54 PM »
You could always just swap locks. Add chains and new locks. Or weld it shut.
That way they can at least earn their unjustified, underserved, and what should be illegal special privilege access. 

 

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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2024, 05:22:16 PM »
For starters stop giving the tribes money.  They are taking money from the whites and using that money to buy up land, they about own half of Darrington now.  Everyone is in the casinos, buying their gas, cheap cigarettes, etc...  any money you give them they use against us.  Stop funding them and they will not be an issue like 20 yrs ago.
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2024, 07:39:57 PM »
Every square inch of dirt in the world has been fought for won and lost several times over. For some reason here in America we are going back to the settlers/indians era of history and basing everything off of that. Who was here before that, and before that and even before that? Time for true equality no more special rights, hell the indians would be better off, look what enabling them has done to them (if you dont know what i mean, drive through a rez)
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2024, 09:22:45 PM »
Simple. Go rip the gates out. It’s not the tribes land to lock up  :twocents:

Yeah, do it.. lol

It’s funny how your response is always something similar to this response. You are part of the problem not the solution :twocents:
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2024, 07:09:39 AM »
When tribes buy private land outside the rez, I get a very strong feeling that land will never be up for sale again.

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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2024, 08:58:05 AM »
I'd bet there would be less heartburn if the gate was closed to everyone or open to everyone. The double standard is where people get upset with these things. Especially when one group advocates for gates to close out 99% of people knowing they'll still have access.  :twocents:

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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2024, 09:27:51 AM »
When tribes buy private land outside the rez, I get a very strong feeling that land will never be up for sale again.

Smart people never sell their real estate, regardless of race.
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2024, 12:06:40 PM »
It's ok I got an email from the supervisor of the District ranger who told me there's other places in the ranger district that I could enjoy the outdoors in. So even though it's public land I should go else where it sounds like.
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2024, 01:02:29 PM »
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Re: Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2024, 05:10:32 PM »
It's ok I got an email from the supervisor of the District ranger who told me there's other places in the ranger district that I could enjoy the outdoors in. So even though it's public land I should go else where it sounds like.
Sounds like it's time to start dealing with this crap :beatdeadhorse:
Deal with?  Please elaborate.... :dunno:

 


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