Question of etiquette

[dilleytech]

As an addendum, in the 70's I went Elk hunting with a friend (first and last time hunting together) when I lived in Montana. We were driving in MY rig up the mountain, and I thought I would ask about distribution if we got an Elk. He stated "Whomever shoots the animal gets all of it." 
My rig and I am supposed to help haul and process it? No gas money? No meat from the harvest? Seriously?
Always get the rules between you straightened out ahead of time.

lol that’s funny. It’s actually fairly common that people expect a reward for helping a friend even though the experience should be reward enough. If I hunted with someone and they expected a portion of my animal I wouldn’t hunt again with them either. Fuel expenses is another thing.

[jrebel]

Hunting with a partner isn't enough to expect a portion of the the animal.  If you expect me to stop my hunt and waste a day or two packing your animal.....then you should expect something (what??? that should be discussed long before it happens).  We share a camp and hunt together and otherwise hunt independently, keep 100%.   My freezers are usually full so I am very generous with folk who help.  Sounds like a lot of folks on here are running lean on meat and don't like to share.   

Me and my hunting buddy split everything down the middle....period.  Animal, Experiences, Work, Gas, Food, etc.  It has worked very well for us over the last 20 years.  We don't invite many others to hunt with us.  On the rare chance we do.....if they help pack the animal is split accordingly (1/2 to the shooter and other half split between whoever helps pack).  We also butcher our own animals and that is part of it....We butcher as a team.   

This post and folks responses are very eye opening to me.  I guess to each their own....but my goodness, you all are overthinking the hunting experience!!  It's suppose to be fun and good memories that last a lifetime.  Life is to short to bicker over 30 lbs of ground deer. 

[GWP]

Interesting. Only time I have encountered that.
All other times the meat has been evenly split or at least some given to all that helped haul out and/or helped (butcher) process the animal.
Either way I ask while plans are being made now. That is the best way. No surprises.

[ghosthunter]

Well elk muzzy usually four of us. We all drive our own rigs so no gas split.
We talk about meat at first camp fire. Shooter takes half, half divided by those in camp at time of kill. Anyone can op out. But not after the first campfire.

Deer you shoot it you keep it. Deer camp can be 7-15.

This year I am going to Idaho in about two days to set up a camp for my buddy who lives there and drew a moose tag. My tents, his food, my gas over and back. I expect nothing in return, going for the experience that I may never have otherwise.

[Taco280AI]

...Buddy walks in from another access point on OP's off day and kills a nice 3 point (on public ground), while OP is at home and the OP is miffed.
 
If the OP was my hunting partner, I would tell them to get off his high horse.  I put in just as much work, anyone could have found that deer, anyone at any time and killed it.

Wrong. Unless you want to hike four miles up the mountain coming up from the bottom there's only one way up. He took his Razor up and to the end of the road then hiked about a mile in.

I would have loved it if he put in work and found a great buck. But for the majority of the two days he sat a couple hundred yards off the dirt road glassing a burn while I was putting miles on my boots. He didn't find a buck, I found a spike, two forkies, and the 3pt. You are right though, anyone could have found that buck - if they put in the work. He only knew of that spot and that buck because I had him being his friend over to try and get him his first deer. And after I asked if he needed help and where he was, he sent me an onX point... on the ridge directly over where the deer his and bedded.

I guess I shouldn't be, but I'm surprised this is how you'd treat your friends. If I hadn't spotted any bucks but he found a good one in the burn he'd been glassing and had been unable to get it for any reason, I would not go after that buck when he wasn't there, knowing he'd return, bequiet about what I was doing, then tell him to get off his high horse if he didn't like it. You don't do that to friends. At least I don't.

[M_59]

   My advice is to just let it go. Otherwise you are going to turn into another HDShot whom has ruined many of the waterfowl forum because of his partner that "wronged" him. I don't want the deer hunting forum to go the same way. Either way just move on. You have gotten enough responses that don't agree with you. So just leave it at that.

[HillHound]

You can’t burn all bridges with friends and family members for every small wrongdoing. You live and you learn. He sounds like a great guy that got some buck fever and maybe made a questionable decision. Keep hunting with him and all the locations you guys already hunt together, but the next time you find that great new spot with the big buck maybe just keep it to yourself. There will be other deer don’t let this eat at you for too long. Like an old guy in Alaska told me it’s easier to find a good wife than it is a good hunting partner and both sometimes come with some compromises

[pianoman9701]

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[10thmountainarcher]

You can’t burn all bridges with friends and family members for every small wrongdoing. You live and you learn. He sounds like a great guy that got some buck fever and maybe made a questionable decision. Keep hunting with him and all the locations you guys already hunt together, but the next time you find that great new spot with the big buck maybe just keep it to yourself. There will be other deer don’t let this eat at you for too long. Like an old guy in Alaska told me it’s easier to find a good wife than it is a good hunting partner and both sometimes come with some compromises

 

[addicted1]

He sounds like a good guy that was willing to go out and hunt for a deer. If you didn’t want to go that’s on you, don’t be mad that someone else had a higher drive and desire to get it. If you wanted it then you should have been out there.

[dilleytech]

Hunting with a partner isn't enough to expect a portion of the the animal.  If you expect me to stop my hunt and waste a day or two packing your animal.....then you should expect something (what??? that should be discussed long before it happens).  We share a camp and hunt together and otherwise hunt independently, keep 100%.   My freezers are usually full so I am very generous with folk who help.  Sounds like a lot of folks on here are running lean on meat and don't like to share.   

Me and my hunting buddy split everything down the middle....period.  Animal, Experiences, Work, Gas, Food, etc.  It has worked very well for us over the last 20 years.  We don't invite many others to hunt with us.  On the rare chance we do.....if they help pack the animal is split accordingly (1/2 to the shooter and other half split between whoever helps pack).  We also butcher our own animals and that is part of it....We butcher as a team.   

This post and folks responses are very eye opening to me.  I guess to each their own....but my goodness, you all are overthinking the hunting experience!!  It's suppose to be fun and good memories that last a lifetime.  Life is to short to bicker over 30 lbs of ground deer.

My freezers are always full. If you want to give away meat that’s all good. If that’s what the hunt is all about and talked about before hand then sweet.

If I called a friend and requested help packing. “Which I have never done” I would offer him meat. But for someone to say hey we drove together I should get a bunch from your animal! Is just comical to me. Helping out a friend for nothing is what friends do, and packing meat is fun and rewarding enough.

I would much rather pack an animal out myself and give friends meat after the fact. If someone calls me and asked for my help I would not expect or ask for any portion of THEIR animal.

[jrebel]

Hunting with a partner isn't enough to expect a portion of the the animal.  If you expect me to stop my hunt and waste a day or two packing your animal.....then you should expect something (what??? that should be discussed long before it happens).  We share a camp and hunt together and otherwise hunt independently, keep 100%.   My freezers are usually full so I am very generous with folk who help.  Sounds like a lot of folks on here are running lean on meat and don't like to share.   

Me and my hunting buddy split everything down the middle....period.  Animal, Experiences, Work, Gas, Food, etc.  It has worked very well for us over the last 20 years.  We don't invite many others to hunt with us.  On the rare chance we do.....if they help pack the animal is split accordingly (1/2 to the shooter and other half split between whoever helps pack).  We also butcher our own animals and that is part of it....We butcher as a team.   

This post and folks responses are very eye opening to me.  I guess to each their own....but my goodness, you all are overthinking the hunting experience!!  It's suppose to be fun and good memories that last a lifetime.  Life is to short to bicker over 30 lbs of ground deer.

My freezers are always full. If you want to give away meat that’s all good. If that’s what the hunt is all about and talked about before hand then sweet.

If I called a friend and requested help packing. “Which I have never done” I would offer him meat. But for someone to say hey we drove together I should get a bunch from your animal! Is just comical to me. Helping out a friend for nothing is what friends do, and packing meat is fun and rewarding enough.

I would much rather pack an animal out myself and give friends meat after the fact. If someone calls me and asked for my help I would not expect or ask for any portion of THEIR animal.

NOTED.....Never hunt with Dilly!! 

Your offer of meat is the gesture that would be needed.  I have help pack meat multiple times and turn down folks offers.  To expect a someone to help and never make an offer is wrong in my opinion.  We helped an old timer pack a deer out once and he said he really needed the meat because his freezer was empty....he offered up a few cold beers.  We wouldn't have taken any of his deer anyway, but the offer of cold beers was a great offering.  I would help him pack any day. 

As for a hunting partner.....We pack each others game and we share our meat.  If you were my hunting partner and didn't have the same offer, we wouldn't hunt more than one season.  We love the meat....so don't take this the wrong way....hunting to us is more about the hunt and friendship than it is the meat.  If I never killed another animal, I would still enjoy the hunt with my hunting partner. 

Out of curiosity....how do you feel if you go home with a 60-70 lbs of burger from a deer you harvested and your hunting partner goes home empty handed.  To me that just seems wrong.....this assuming your hunting partner helped with the tracking, packing, calling, etc. etc. etc.?? 

I guess...to each their own.  I was raised to share. 

[Shoofly09]

Poor etiquette for sure. How important is your friendship? If it's important, wish him congratulations and find another buck. Next time, you'll know better what to share with him and his tenderfoot friend. 

sums it up perfectly in my opinion.  Not worth losing a hunting buddy, but live and learn. 

[addicted1]

I can’t imagine not sharing a portion of the harvest with anyone that helps. Packing an animal is fun? Yeah, it’s fun when you know you’ll be eating some of it.

[Threewolves]

" BLUE FALCON MOVE"  very good. Very funny.

Life is short. There's that saying ,"To hunt, YOU have to to kill."

It's nice if your buddy gets a kill, but it is very important that you fulfill your dreams and complete your overall hunting goals. Who would you rather be the guy with a deer on the ground or the guy saying "well I didn't get one, but my buddy did, or I know a guy who got one."

I know folks that say it's the friends, the great outdoors, and all that, but everyone is competing for the same resource. It's nice to be the hero and tell your buddies, but it's OK not to. Let them do some work.

Go a couple of seasons of not getting anything because of your lapse in operational security, and you may become jaded.

There is a term in the military intelligence world called "exploiting an intelligence resource." In this case, it is you. If you truly don't mind someone shooting that deer, tell them all about it. Heck, tell everyone. But, if you want to shoot it, tell no one. You can help them get one after you get yours. Hey, you can be the buddy that helps pack out, and now you will get to see your  buddy's new hunting area! How about that.

If you were looking for deer for your daughter or son and found one, could you trust your buddy not to go in there? Ever hear "well it's all public land, you don't own it, and besides I am trying to help these five new hunters get their deer, you know recuit new hunters ( I screwed you out of your area, but I am the hero)."

While there is such a thing  as true friends and hunting partners, you got to be the same and say don't go in there. Because there are BLUE FALCONS.

I wonder how all blue falcons reading this thread are rationalizing and justifying their actions.

My wife reminds me that i am my own worst enemy when it comes managing hunting information, but I am working on it.

There are only so many sun sets left. Hunt your hunt the way you want to do it an be satisfied. Again, there are only so many sunsets left!

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