Washington Governor Tag

[bearpaw]

@bearpaw
I don’t believe anyone, without doing a massive FOIA request, can prove either way on the spending.
Even if done, no way to positive your getting correct info

I mostly agree!

However, there is nothing to back up this statement made earlier in this topic: "very likely has no tangible benefit therefore ending in a net loss to all but the auction or raffle tag holder"

Most of the pet projects are showcased at the given event.  There should also be a summary from the section manager.

Thanks, that info would be some meat and potatoes for this discussion!

[huntnphool]

Why is this mostly elk discussion in the deer section?

[NOCK NOCK]

All you guys that are opposed to the auction tags, are you equally opposed to the raffle tags? The average Joe can buy 1000 tickets and stack the odds in his favor for an OIL hunt at a fraction of the price that one guy is spending on an auction tag.

Interesting take on "Average Joe", my guess is the AJ is not going to gamble on a hunt for $6000-17K ........The AJ is trying to figure out how to pay their rent/mort and still afford eggs for the kiddos.

[teanawayslayer]

Why is this mostly elk discussion in the deer section?

blind leading the blind. 

[Tbar]

Why is this mostly elk discussion in the deer section?

blind leading the blind. 

Maybe misplaced by the OP but the question asked referenced "tags". You both seem to be very much in the know on these tags.  Maybe you can provide clarity on the benefits of these tags? What are the conservation outcomes of the proceeds? Honest questions so I'm not considered blind. Thanks in advance.

[NOCK NOCK]

Why is this mostly elk discussion in the deer section?

blind leading the blind. 

Maybe misplaced by the OP but the question asked referenced "tags". You both seem to be very much in the know on these tags.  Maybe you can provide clarity on the benefits of these tags? What are the conservation outcomes of the proceeds? Honest questions so I'm not considered blind. Thanks in advance.

OP asked about permits. (non species specific) As most all threads do, transpired into elk.

I"m curious too .......what ya got guys

[hughjorgan]

All you guys that are opposed to the auction tags, are you equally opposed to the raffle tags? The average Joe can buy 1000 tickets and stack the odds in his favor for an OIL hunt at a fraction of the price that one guy is spending on an auction tag.

Interesting take on "Average Joe", my guess is the AJ is not going to gamble on a hunt for $6000-17K ........The AJ is trying to figure out how to pay their rent/mort and still afford eggs for the kiddos.

The average Joe that likes to hunt is spending thousands every year going out of state and hunting multiple states. There not rich, they work in the trades, etc. It’s not hard to believe some guys drop thousands on raffle tickets. I know of at least one guy that’s done it and he is just a middle class guy that likes to hunt.

[NOCK NOCK]

All you guys that are opposed to the auction tags, are you equally opposed to the raffle tags? The average Joe can buy 1000 tickets and stack the odds in his favor for an OIL hunt at a fraction of the price that one guy is spending on an auction tag.

Interesting take on "Average Joe", my guess is the AJ is not going to gamble on a hunt for $6000-17K ........The AJ is trying to figure out how to pay their rent/mort and still afford eggs for the kiddos.

The average Joe that likes to hunt is spending thousands every year going out of state and hunting multiple states. There not rich, they work in the trades, etc. It’s not hard to believe some guys drop thousands on raffle tickets. I know of at least one guy that’s done it and he is just a middle class guy that likes to hunt.

Average WA income is like $50k. after high Mort/Rent/food/fuel/etc. I Would be willing to bet the AJ spending thousands yearly on hunts would quickly become a single man if married.  Sure every so often, but that's a lot of money to spend every year.
I spend way more time hunting, and doing hunting related outings than most, and considered myself AJ+, and cannot justify spending that kind of money every year..
We'll have to agree to disagree on what's considered average Joe.