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WSP gun back ground check system
« on: November 14, 2024, 07:36:57 PM »
Looks like the system was hacked? https://www.ammoland.com/2024/11/washington-state-fury-over-background-check-system-disruption/ so no buying guns in the state until it is fixed looks like.

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2024, 07:48:05 PM »
It has actually been down since November 2nd.  SAF is threatening to sue the state.  https://komonews.com/news/local/washington-state-patrol-lawsuit-second-amendment-foundation-saf-background-checks-firearm-sales-aoc-administrative-office-courts-november-1st-e-check#

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2024, 07:57:11 PM »
Just a mere coincidence
Kind of a sideshow huh ?
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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2024, 08:13:07 PM »
Interesting I purchased a pistol week and a half ago and the gun dealer mention nothing about this and said I’ll see you on the 21st for pick up. :dunno:
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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2024, 08:15:10 PM »
Same. Supposed to pick up the 22nd. We will see… Bobby at work already.

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2024, 08:24:05 PM »
Just a mere coincidence
Kind of a sideshow huh ?

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2024, 08:47:21 PM »
I had a buddy purchase a pistol two weeks ago.  He picked it up today without issue. 

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2024, 09:22:28 PM »
Looks like the system was hacked? https://www.ammoland.com/2024/11/washington-state-fury-over-background-check-system-disruption/ so no buying guns in the state until it is fixed looks like.

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It doesn't stop a dealer's ability to sell guns.


I had a buddy purchase a pistol two weeks ago.  He picked it up today without issue.

Two weeks ago in October?


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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2024, 05:43:31 AM »
I didn’t seem to have any issues a week or so ago.  We’ll see if I pick up on the 20 th

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2024, 06:13:14 AM »
Looks like the system was hacked? https://www.ammoland.com/2024/11/washington-state-fury-over-background-check-system-disruption/ so no buying guns in the state until it is fixed looks like.

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It doesn't stop a dealer's ability to sell guns.


I had a buddy purchase a pistol two weeks ago.  He picked it up today without issue.

Two weeks ago in October?


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His pickup date was yesterday, so whatever 10 business days was before yesterday. 

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2024, 06:25:37 AM »
Just passing on info I found. 

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2024, 09:17:02 AM »
SAF needs to sue like yesterday. They can fix this in one day by tech support or going back to Federal background checks but sideshow is flexing. No Unconstitutional gun law made us safer.
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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2024, 11:04:42 AM »
Dreadi:  Do you know if suppressor applications are affected by this?

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2024, 11:07:33 AM »
Dreadi:  Do you know if suppressor applications are affected by this?

Shouldn't be as the state doesn't do the background on class 3.

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2024, 11:07:57 AM »
Dreadi:  Do you know if suppressor applications are affected by this?
Might be wrong but don't thing suppressors go through the same process.  I think the go through local LE?

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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2024, 11:08:56 AM »
Dreadi:  Do you know if suppressor applications are affected by this?
They are not affected.


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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2024, 11:10:59 AM »
Dreadi:  Do you know if suppressor applications are affected by this?
Might be wrong but don't thing suppressors go through the same process.  I think the go through local LE?

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A copy goes to LE for notification but not for the background check. Feds do the background check through their systems.

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2024, 11:12:25 AM »
Dreadi:  Do you know if suppressor applications are affected by this?
Might be wrong but don't thing suppressors go through the same process.  I think the go through local LE?

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A copy goes to LE for notification but not for the background check. Feds do the background check through their systems.
Yeah that's right.  Just knew that local LE was involved somewhere in the process when I did mine.

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2024, 11:50:28 AM »
I know that alot of people here watch William Kirk and Washington Gun Law on YouTube

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2024, 12:12:48 PM »
Dreadi:  Do you know if suppressor applications are affected by this?
Might be wrong but don't thing suppressors go through the same process.  I think the go through local LE?

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A copy goes to LE for notification but not for the background check. Feds do the background check through their systems.
Yeah that's right.  Just knew that local LE was involved somewhere in the process when I did mine.

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Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2024, 02:26:47 PM »
So the big question is who and why did they hack it maybe looking for a gun registry just a thought

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2024, 04:54:20 PM »
update.

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2024, 04:56:51 PM »
In my opinion, the state patrol shouldn’t be the responsible review party on this.
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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2024, 05:04:46 PM »
They need to go back to the old way of doing things.....Especially as it pertains to CCW permit holders.  If you have a CCW you should be able to walk out of the store....day of....with the purchased firearm, regardless of type.  I've already been through the background check....why waste resources and repeat checks, just doesn't make sense. 


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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2024, 02:10:29 AM »
They need to go back to the old way of doing things.....Especially as it pertains to CCW permit holders.  If you have a CCW you should be able to walk out of the store....day of....with the purchased firearm, regardless of type.  I've already been through the background check....why waste resources and repeat checks, just doesn't make sense.
One of the reasons I got a CCW.  I think SAF should still go through with a law suit.  This is basically shut down the whole states court system for the last 2 weeks.  You figure this should have some pretty high security on it.  I am not a big black helicopter tin foil hat guy but this whole thing seems a bit fishy

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2024, 07:40:56 PM »
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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2024, 05:29:37 PM »
Purchased my new gun on the 5th and picked up today without issue
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Re: WSP gun back ground check system
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2024, 06:29:33 PM »
They need to go back to the old way of doing things.....Especially as it pertains to CCW permit holders.  If you have a CCW you should be able to walk out of the store....day of....with the purchased firearm, regardless of type.  I've already been through the background check....why waste resources and repeat checks, just doesn't make sense.
One of the reasons I got a CCW.  I think SAF should still go through with a law suit.  This is basically shut down the whole states court system for the last 2 weeks.  You figure this should have some pretty high security on it.  I am not a big black helicopter tin foil hat guy but this whole thing seems a bit fishy

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They should go forward with the lawsuit to prevent something similar from happening again. If you sat in jail for 2 weeks because a software vulnerability stopped the courts from assigning you a lawyer you would have standing to sue for civil rights violations. You would probably be paid out for the inconvenience, but the proper remedy would be to force the government to do away with the reliance on a software system to assign lawyers.

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