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Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« on: November 28, 2024, 06:51:47 AM »
While archery deer hunting Wednesday, my buddy and I ran into another hunter , he started telling us while in his tree stand  a doe came running by and behind it was three domestic dogs chasing the deer .
Later in the morning we spotted four does and a decent buck as we made a play on them , we heard what we where certain domestic dogs barking and baying, as we closed the distance between us and the deer ,here came three dogs , a Boston Terrier , German Shepard and one I have no idea What it was , the deer blew up and scattered , the three dogs went in the direction of two of the does barking and baying , we got to high ground and sure as heck they where running the two does!
I called and left a message with WDFW , but the question would be what's a hunter to do in this instance?
My hope is someone is missing some domestic dogs and they can PM me and we can meet and show them where they are hanging out , odds are slim on that because where we are hunting is pretty deep and I have a feeling someone dumped some dogs and they are just trying to live and adapt to there new life??

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2024, 07:04:31 AM »
running deer ?
shoot em
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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2024, 07:38:59 AM »
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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2024, 08:11:39 AM »
How far is the nearest house? I would start there and ask questions. If they have no idea and the next house has no idea then you are probably right that they were dumped. My buddies dad was turkey hunting one year and had himself buried in a slash pile calling. Well after about 30 mins he heard something breathing crazy and a doe came sprinting by. Seconds later another doe came running up looking confused on where to run to. Seconds after that 2 dogs came running up and he blasted them both without hesitation...   :dunno: People have a responsibility to keep an eye on their dogs. Even if they live out in the country and don't have immediate neighbors.
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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2024, 08:17:47 AM »
I’d say bye bye doggies and never I’ve even question where or who’s they were  :twocents:

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2024, 10:24:08 AM »
Yeah this question has been asked on here before.

There is no Game law that anyone could find that allows you to shoot dogs chasing WILD GAME. Game police could.

So SSS if that’s your choice.

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2024, 10:40:43 AM »
Yeah this question has been asked on here before.

There is no Game law that anyone could find that allows you to shoot dogs chasing WILD GAME. Game police could.

So SSS if that’s your choice.

Correct, you get caught, you’re facing animal cruelty charges. The law is specific, fish and wildlife officers can shoot the dog and that’s it.

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2024, 11:10:47 AM »
Dead dogs..
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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2024, 11:12:46 AM »
I had this happen when I was a teenager on the lower Yakima river.  It was late winter and was just messing around with my .22. Doe dang near ran me over.  Right behind her was a pack of dogs.  Dont remember exactly how many I shot but it was like 5 or 6.  Didn't get them all but thinned the pack without regret or hesitation. They would have likely ran her to exhaustion and killed her.
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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2024, 11:34:21 AM »
I have the same issue on property in Mississippi. As much as I love dogs, any dogs running deer need to die. They will never stop after they kill the first one. Dogs are protected more than humans down there and it’s a slippery slope. Where I live in Idaho pretty much every one is on the same page that they need to die. Don’t let your dogs run free in winter or spring here
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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2024, 11:44:12 AM »
NO REASON to shoot the dogs other than stupidity unless they are wild... Catch them or report them. Unless there's deep snow they won't hurt the deer, especially since they are barking, the deer will actually stop and feed they'll get so far ahead of them. Dogs not barking are what add to the turmoil, hence the reason 'yotes and wolves do not bark while chasing. Shooting someones dog's a good way to get shot lol

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2024, 11:45:52 AM »
I have the same issue on property in Mississippi. As much as I love dogs, any dogs running deer need to die. They will never stop after they kill the first one. Dogs are protected more than humans down there and it’s a slippery slope. Where I live in Idaho pretty much every one is on the same page that they need to die. Don’t let your dogs run free in winter or spring here

If those dogs are barking they're not catching a healthy deer...

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2024, 11:49:23 AM »
NO REASON to shoot the dogs other than stupidity... Catch them or report them. Unless there's deep snow they won't hurt the deer, especially since they are barking, the deer will actually stop and feed they'll get so far ahead of them. Dogs not barking are what ass to the turmoil, hence the reason 'yotes and wolves do not bark while chasing. Shooting someones dog's a good way to get shot lol

I completely disagree

Dogs last year killed multiple deer in the Teton Valley here and my son has multiple videos of dogs killing deer on our property. He also witnessed 3 dogs chasing a doe and fawn this summer and he saw them kill the fawn then went after the doe
It’s a fact that it doesn’t have to be deep snow for a pack of dogs to kill deer
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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2024, 11:56:04 AM »
NO REASON to shoot the dogs other than stupidity... Catch them or report them. Unless there's deep snow they won't hurt the deer, especially since they are barking, the deer will actually stop and feed they'll get so far ahead of them. Dogs not barking are what ass to the turmoil, hence the reason 'yotes and wolves do not bark while chasing. Shooting someones dog's a good way to get shot lol

I completely disagree

Dogs last year killed multiple deer in the Teton Valley here and my son has multiple videos of dogs killing deer on our property. He also witnessed 3 dogs chasing a doe and fawn this summer and he saw them kill the fawn then went after the doe
It’s a fact that it doesn’t have to be deep snow for a pack of dogs to kill deer

Post the videos for us. If there's not heavy snow and they are barking the deer wasn't healthy if they caught it. I have literally hunted hundreds of hours (3.5 month long deer seasons)with dogs and NEVER was a deer caught. We had beagles that would run about 30 minutes and return to the drop and we had walkers that would run all day and the deer were literally hours ahead of them. If it does happen it's RARE. May as well shoot hunters that wound an animal and shoot another instead of tagging out and calling it quits. Guarantee it happens 1000-1 dog kill

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2024, 11:58:03 AM »
Shoot shove and shut up once a dog starts chasing game you’ll never break him of it. it’s no different than chasing livestock on a ranch. If you don’t want your dog shot tied up I just love everybody moves to the country and thinks they can turn their dog loose on their one acre piece and think that dog has fair roaming with a 500 acres around him..


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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2024, 12:04:39 PM »
Shoot shove and shut up once a dog starts chasing game you’ll never break him of it. it’s no different than chasing livestock on a ranch. If you don’t want your dog shot tied up I just love everybody moves to the country and thinks they can turn their dog loose on their one acre piece and think that dog has fair roaming with a 500 acres around him..


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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2024, 12:12:25 PM »
I bet I know exactly the area you’re hunting. It happened to my buddy last year while stalking in on a buck in there. Sucks to say the least.

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2024, 12:42:02 PM »
running deer ?
shoot em

Completely agree. I have no sympathy for the owners.

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2024, 06:55:18 PM »
What do u mean by saying the deer blew up?
While archery deer hunting Wednesday, my buddy and I ran into another hunter , he started telling us while in his tree stand  a doe came running by and behind it was three domestic dogs chasing the deer .
Later in the morning we spotted four does and a decent buck as we made a play on them , we heard what we where certain domestic dogs barking and baying, as we closed the distance between us and the deer ,here came three dogs , a Boston Terrier , German Shepard and one I have no idea What it was , the deer blew up and scattered , the three dogs went in the direction of two of the does barking and baying , we got to high ground and sure as heck they where running the two does!
I called and left a message with WDFW , but the question would be what's a hunter to do in this instance?
My hope is someone is missing some domestic dogs and they can PM me and we can meet and show them where they are hanging out , odds are slim on that because where we are hunting is pretty deep and I have a feeling someone dumped some dogs and they are just trying to live and adapt to there new life??

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2024, 09:25:03 PM »
Had this problem a few years back.  4 dogs chased a doe across my property and couple days later saw them chasing another in a field nearby.  Called wdfw and reported. Was asked if I knew who owned them (I didnt) and was told I could destroy them if they chased again on my property. Warden also told me it was a big problem in our area and had reports of several fawn kills attributed to domestic dogs.  Found out later that some of the other locals had taken care of the pack, at least two while feeding on a downed deer. Domestic dogs running freely in deer country is not good , let your conscience be your guide as to how you'd handle it.

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2024, 06:33:37 AM »
Shoot them all. No reason to dig a hole.

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2024, 06:55:29 AM »
We were cougar hunting years ago Christmas time.     Tracking with snowmobiles back in the backcountry miles and miles from the nearest home.  We had already seen the tracks of the dogs and found a couple dead deer.  We rounded a corner and  ran into a pack of dogs.  One of them even charged at my dad who swiftly put him down with the .41 .   I had the 30-30 on my back and quickly went into action.  If I recall right, we killed 6 and one got away.   We went back to our vehicles and the game warden was there gearing up to go look for these dogs.   My Dad told him what we had encountered and took him to the kill site.   As far as I remember he thanked us and he went off to look for the one that got away.  Those were different times.

I can also recall when I had a dog in my scope who was harassing deer and just before I pulled the trigger a cross country skier came into the picture.   I can remember being very glad I hadnt pulled the trigger.     

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Re: Archery Deer late Nachez/Nile Dogs on Deer
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2024, 10:51:39 AM »
We were cougar hunting years ago Christmas time.     Tracking with snowmobiles back in the backcountry miles and miles from the nearest home.  We had already seen the tracks of the dogs and found a couple dead deer.  We rounded a corner and  ran into a pack of dogs.  One of them even charged at my dad who swiftly put him down with the .41 .   I had the 30-30 on my back and quickly went into action.  If I recall right, we killed 6 and one got away.   We went back to our vehicles and the game warden was there gearing up to go look for these dogs.   My Dad told him what we had encountered and took him to the kill site.   As far as I remember he thanked us and he went off to look for the one that got away.  Those were different times.

I can also recall when I had a dog in my scope who was harassing deer and just before I pulled the trigger a cross country skier came into the picture.   I can remember being very glad I hadnt pulled the trigger.   

Interesting. When I was a teenager I was hunting and a pack of dogs ran a deer by me. I fired a shot in the air to stop them. They did stop the chase and decided to charge me instead. I fired several rounds in front of them before they stopped coming and slunk away. Your mentioning that the dog charged your dad reminded me of my experience. Once those dogs get the chase and kill fever it doesn't seem to matter who their prey is.

 


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