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Offline Moose Master

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Not natural
« on: December 11, 2024, 08:23:32 PM »
https://www.bowhunting.com/article/the-worlds-first-1000-inch-buck-but-why/

What would it be western count.   Definitely different

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2024, 08:26:56 PM »
Good grief.
What a freak.
What do you do with that thing?
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2024, 08:31:33 PM »
That's one afro antlered buck! The look on his face in the live pic says just shoot me now!

I'm not a fan of the high fenced gmo bucks. It deserves an asterix next to it if they put it in any record books.
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2024, 08:35:42 PM »
Looks like something Dr. Frankenstein would create. Certainly not something I personally would shoot or call a game animal. 

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2024, 08:43:57 PM »
Not lmpressed at all. I’d be embarrassed to pose with a game farm freak. I’d rather look at a picture of a forked horn someone went out and worked for.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2024, 09:28:47 PM »
They ought to be charged with animal cruelty.

And "We give all the glory and praise to Jesus for allowing us to be a part of a harvesting this magnificent animal.”???  I don't think Jesus would approve of them playing God.
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2024, 09:36:27 PM »
That's hideous  :yike:

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2024, 11:13:52 PM »
They ought to be charged with animal cruelty.

And "We give all the glory and praise to Jesus for allowing us to be a part of a harvesting this magnificent animal.”???  I don't think Jesus would approve of them playing God.
Animal cruelty? Why?
Is killing a deer cruel?
If it was legal and they enjoyed the experience, why should I or anyone else decide that they shouldn’t be allowed to raise and kill their own “livestock”?
Breeding and feeding animals to produce desired traits is not offensive to me and is common practice in farming.
Some people are always finding reasons to wring their hands about what other people do. I guess that’s what I am doing right now. Guess I’ll stop. :dunno:
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2024, 04:22:34 AM »
They ought to be charged with animal cruelty.

And "We give all the glory and praise to Jesus for allowing us to be a part of a harvesting this magnificent animal.”???  I don't think Jesus would approve of them playing God.
Animal cruelty? Why?
Is killing a deer cruel?
If it was legal and they enjoyed the experience, why should I or anyone else decide that they shouldn’t be allowed to raise and kill their own “livestock”?
Breeding and feeding animals to produce desired traits is not offensive to me and is common practice in farming.
Some people are always finding reasons to wring their hands about what other people do. I guess that’s what I am doing right now. Guess I’ll stop. :dunno:


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Re: Not natural
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2024, 04:23:33 AM »
That poor deer looks miserable. 

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2024, 04:42:15 AM »
Pass  on all counts.
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2024, 06:31:04 AM »
 Not sure I would even feel comfortable eating that deer. I wonder what king of horn roids they were pumping him full of?

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2024, 06:34:58 AM »
That ain't right.
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2024, 06:46:49 AM »
Disgusting

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2024, 06:50:54 AM »
Wouldn't shoot it if I saw it the wild

Some of their other deer that Ive seen are ugly as heck as well...not for me..
With hunts ranging from like 6k-20k....but hey it's only like 2k acres....so eventually you'll catch up to one.. :chuckle:

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2024, 06:54:52 AM »
About 9 out of ten whitetail photographs in your magazines are from these places.   Very few natural whitetail photos.   Toss AI into the mix.  I guess everyone likes the fake ones. 

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2024, 07:20:10 AM »
Thats crazy. I kinda feel bad for the deer to deal with all that. Can't imagine he'd win to many battles with antlers like that. He was probably penned up so he wouldn't break any inches off.
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2024, 07:25:13 AM »
Can't even see the ear tag with all those points  :chuckle:

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2024, 07:26:50 AM »
My dog would be thrilled to have that much antler to chew on.  :chuckle:

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2024, 07:37:12 AM »
I would personally prefer to shoot a local average 3x3 than that. But it's no skin off my back if some people like deer like that.  Different hunters have different preferences and abilities when it comes to the animals they choose to pursue.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2024, 07:46:04 AM »
Deer has to kill a forest of saplings to clear off the velvet.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2024, 08:06:13 AM »
Not a fan
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2024, 08:44:57 AM »
No thanks

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2024, 09:13:26 AM »
Yep. Gross.
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2024, 09:23:03 AM »
Think about how tender that neck meat is..... 😂

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2024, 11:54:59 AM »
What did they leave for breed stock?
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2024, 02:59:46 PM »
How is this even up for consideration for world record status? World record *** farmed deer****??

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2024, 05:42:14 PM »
What did they leave for breed stock?
Oh, they've got freezers full of that.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2024, 01:37:18 PM »
I would be embarrassed to be In that picture. I’m guessing they decided to shoot it in velvet because they knew half of those times would break off when he started raking.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2024, 03:55:44 PM »
No thank you. For many reasons, “game farm” being the lead off hitter.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2024, 04:56:17 PM »
I like bucks with character but that's a little ott lol
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2024, 06:28:00 PM »
My nephew lives in Texas and one of his friends is a vet/biologist. His friend spends most of his days working on these high fence farms.

He told me they have to keep these bucks penned up most of their lives as if they get in a fight with a smaller buck it will split their skulls and they obviously die/suffer. His friend also said that a lot of these bucks skulls will break in half even if they are running. Nature did not design their skulls to carry this much weight.

Disgusting and animal cruelty is an understatement in my eyes.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2024, 08:17:18 PM »
 I'm sure most understand that killing the deer isn't the cruel part. Most on this site fully understand that killing the deer is necessary, if the goal is to get to the backstraps. Having the deer carry around at least 4 times the amount of mass and weight on its head with its neck that couldn't possibly be suited for such a job, strictly because some moron wants to see how big a set of antlers can get, is the cruel part. Just like the guy in Wyoming, killing the wolf wasn't the cruel part. Running over the wolf first with his snowmobile and parading the animal through the bar before putting it out of its misery, was the cruel part. Some find it fine to treat another living and breathing being like its only purpose on earth is their utter enjoyment or intrigue.
 I'm not trying to tell you that animals have feelings too but I can only assume they feel pain like humans do. Pretty sure I've had a buck or two tell me it hurt when my shot wasn't spot on. I've branded and dehorned a few calves. I've cut my dogs nails too short and once pulled his punctured, bloody jowel off of his canine while he was screaming quite loudly, "hey that friggin hurts."
 The cruel part is watching a living breathing animal be miserable and suffer for ones own entertainment.
 I didn't open the link because I saw the article somewhere else and thought to myself then, hunters are their own worst enemies and maybe when we as a collective, lose our rights to hunt, there may be a few of us that deserves it. 

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2024, 06:34:04 AM »
Curious what that guy paid to harvest that buck  :dunno:
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2024, 07:55:48 AM »
What is wrong with people?

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2024, 08:04:03 AM »
“The sense of accomplishment is in direct proportion to the degree of difficulty”, Jim Shockey

I doubt this shooter experienced much of either.

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2024, 08:15:33 AM »
There are a lot of examples of this type of thing.
“Game Farms” of all sorts, Pheasant, Chukar, to name a few, but then they call it “hunting” when they plant birds in a field and send folks out to find them so they can pose with their limit on the tailgate. We used them when dog training as the drive was worth not having to raise our own Pheasant or other game birds, but it is not really hunting.
Buffalo would be another.
Not sure I agree with being able to put this rack into the record books though.
How would you differentiate between hybrid or natural? DNA testing?
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Re: Not natural
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2024, 08:25:57 AM »
Wouldn't put much concern in the SCI estate record....
Canned, farm raised animal "hunts"....
Record books for rich guys...

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Re: Not natural
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2024, 08:30:59 AM »
At the very least, an asterisk indicating the animal wasn't killed in a fair chase situation. Anyone that has any knowledge of deer antlers knows that's not natural. That animal wouldn't have survived in the wild like that.

 


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