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I like bucks with character but that's a little ott lol
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My nephew lives in Texas and one of his friends is a vet/biologist. His friend spends most of his days working on these high fence farms.
He told me they have to keep these bucks penned up most of their lives as if they get in a fight with a smaller buck it will split their skulls and they obviously die/suffer. His friend also said that a lot of these bucks skulls will break in half even if they are running. Nature did not design their skulls to carry this much weight.
Disgusting and animal cruelty is an understatement in my eyes.
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I'm sure most understand that killing the deer isn't the cruel part. Most on this site fully understand that killing the deer is necessary, if the goal is to get to the backstraps. Having the deer carry around at least 4 times the amount of mass and weight on its head with its neck that couldn't possibly be suited for such a job, strictly because some moron wants to see how big a set of antlers can get, is the cruel part. Just like the guy in Wyoming, killing the wolf wasn't the cruel part. Running over the wolf first with his snowmobile and parading the animal through the bar before putting it out of its misery, was the cruel part. Some find it fine to treat another living and breathing being like its only purpose on earth is their utter enjoyment or intrigue.
I'm not trying to tell you that animals have feelings too but I can only assume they feel pain like humans do. Pretty sure I've had a buck or two tell me it hurt when my shot wasn't spot on. I've branded and dehorned a few calves. I've cut my dogs nails too short and once pulled his punctured, bloody jowel off of his canine while he was screaming quite loudly, "hey that friggin hurts."
The cruel part is watching a living breathing animal be miserable and suffer for ones own entertainment.
I didn't open the link because I saw the article somewhere else and thought to myself then, hunters are their own worst enemies and maybe when we as a collective, lose our rights to hunt, there may be a few of us that deserves it.
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Curious what that guy paid to harvest that buck
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What is wrong with people?
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“The sense of accomplishment is in direct proportion to the degree of difficulty”, Jim Shockey
I doubt this shooter experienced much of either.
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There are a lot of examples of this type of thing.
“Game Farms” of all sorts, Pheasant, Chukar, to name a few, but then they call it “hunting” when they plant birds in a field and send folks out to find them so they can pose with their limit on the tailgate. We used them when dog training as the drive was worth not having to raise our own Pheasant or other game birds, but it is not really hunting.
Buffalo would be another.
Not sure I agree with being able to put this rack into the record books though.
How would you differentiate between hybrid or natural? DNA testing?
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Wouldn't put much concern in the SCI estate record....
Canned, farm raised animal "hunts"....
Record books for rich guys...
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At the very least, an asterisk indicating the animal wasn't killed in a fair chase situation. Anyone that has any knowledge of deer antlers knows that's not natural. That animal wouldn't have survived in the wild like that.
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