No More Federal Land?

[jackelope]

I was wrong, it is not 11,000 acres of federal land approved for sale (mis-read the article) - it is 460,000 acres of public land to be sold.

https://apnews.com/article/west-public-lands-sale-republicans-e153dcb4d4391dd849e4409123bfecfe
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/05/09/hageman-and-house-committee-open-up-sale-of-federally-owned-public-land/
https://www.livenowfox.com/news/house-republicans-federal-lands-sale

It’s a gateway drug.

Any sportsman, hunter, fisherman, outdoorsman who’s not concerned with this clearly has the blinders on.  It’s 460k acres now. Whats it going to be next month? Another 460k in a different state? Between states like WA working to eliminate hunting and our federal govt selling off public land, we’re doomed in short order.
Unless you’re loaded and can afford to buy your own hunting paradise or pay someone else for access to theirs.
It’s a good time to be a billionaire I guess.

[Jake Dogfish]

I was wrong, it is not 11,000 acres of federal land approved for sale (mis-read the article) - it is 460,000 acres of public land to be sold.

https://apnews.com/article/west-public-lands-sale-republicans-e153dcb4d4391dd849e4409123bfecfe
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/05/09/hageman-and-house-committee-open-up-sale-of-federally-owned-public-land/
https://www.livenowfox.com/news/house-republicans-federal-lands-sale

It’s a gateway drug.

Any sportsman, hunter, fisherman, outdoorsman who’s not concerned with this clearly has the blinders on.  It’s 460k acres now. Whats it going to be next month? Another 460k in a different state? Between states like WA working to eliminate hunting and our federal govt selling off public land, we’re doomed in short order.
Unless you’re loaded and can afford to buy your own hunting paradise or pay someone else for access to theirs.
It’s a good time to be a billionaire I guess.

[andrew_in_idaho]

I love how they are selling this land in the name of affordable housing, when they build 750,000 McMansions on it is that the new measure of affordable?


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[Twispriver]

I agree with Jackelope, don't ever let the camel get it's nose under the tent.

[Tinmaniac]

It's pretty simple really,if we aren't growing we are dying.How is everything supposed to boom if we lock it up and don't touch it? Can't have it both ways fellas,careful now you'll be tree huggers before you know it.

[bigtex]

The feds have been selling BLM land in Vegas city limits for decades. It's to the point now there is actually BLM land for sale that nobody's bought. The difference is the proceeds from these sales go back to future land purchases by the feds. The Republicans are now proposing selling fed lands to just put the money into the federal coffers, not going back to purchasing more fed lands.

I have no problem selling fed land within city limits that poses no recreational, biological, etc importance. This is very common in Nevada but there's also BLM lands within the city limits of Richland, WA. But as others have said, what happens when the sale line starts shifting from within city limits to within half of a mile of a city, 5 miles of a city, 20 miles of a city, etc.

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[CarbonHunter]

The feds have been selling BLM land in Vegas city limits for decades. It's to the point now there is actually BLM land for sale that nobody's bought. The difference is the proceeds from these sales go back to future land purchases by the feds. The Republicans are now proposing selling fed lands to just put the money into the federal coffers, not going back to purchasing more fed lands.
I have no problem selling fed land within city limits that poses no recreational, biological, etc importance. This is very common in Nevada but there's also BLM lands within the city limits of Richland, WA. But as others have said, what happens when the sale line starts shifting from within city limits to within half of a mile of a city, 5 miles of a city, 20 miles of a city, etc.

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This is spot on. It’s not that land is being sold or traded it’s the reason they are selling and the process. If the politicians are deciding what gets sold and where the money goes it’s not going to be in the best interest of the national citizens it will be in the best interests of their donors.

And keep in mind when it comes to Nevada, this state originally sold all the checker boarded land that was assigned to them at statehood to line their pockets and that is why the only public land is federal land.

[Platensek-po]

It's pretty simple really,if we aren't growing we are dying.How is everything supposed to boom if we lock it up and don't touch it? Can't have it both ways fellas,careful now you'll be tree huggers before you know it.

Who says we don’t touch it? How is this helping anything grow other than private industries pockets and the real estate portfolios of the mega rich? Keep this up and in order to be able to hug a tree you will have spend big bucks to access private land.

[baldopepper]

It's pretty simple really,if we aren't growing we are dying.How is everything supposed to boom if we lock it up and don't touch it? Can't have it both ways fellas,careful now you'll be tree huggers before you know it.

Not sure where this idea that we gotta keep growing or we're dying came from. Some of my favorite towns have not grown or changed much in years. People living there are quite content to just to have things the way they are. Moved to Washington in 1980, Seattle was a laid back town that we often went into with no problems. Now, 44 years later, it's grown into just another big dirty city that I avoid if at all possible. For me, that idea that you gotta keep growing is nonsense.

[Alan K]

These lands can be saddled with conservation easements prior to sale to allow for public access and just about anything else. 

I'm all for getting lands in the hands of those who can and want to actively manage them. The federal beurocracy has gotten itself so bound up that nothing meaningful is done for management anymore.  Just be sure they're encumbered with public access conservation easements prior to sale, and I'm on board!  Without, nope.

[jackelope]

It's pretty simple really,if we aren't growing we are dying.How is everything supposed to boom if we lock it up and don't touch it? Can't have it both ways fellas,careful now you'll be tree huggers before you know it.

There are lots and lots of things I don’t need to see boom. I’m 100% ok with that.

[mburrows]

I was wrong, it is not 11,000 acres of federal land approved for sale (mis-read the article) - it is 460,000 acres of public land to be sold.

https://apnews.com/article/west-public-lands-sale-republicans-e153dcb4d4391dd849e4409123bfecfe
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/05/09/hageman-and-house-committee-open-up-sale-of-federally-owned-public-land/
https://www.livenowfox.com/news/house-republicans-federal-lands-sale

It’s a gateway drug.

Any sportsman, hunter, fisherman, outdoorsman who’s not concerned with this clearly has the blinders on.  It’s 460k acres now. Whats it going to be next month? Another 460k in a different state? Between states like WA working to eliminate hunting and our federal govt selling off public land, we’re doomed in short order.
Unless you’re loaded and can afford to buy your own hunting paradise or pay someone else for access to theirs.
It’s a good time to be a billionaire I guess.

Nailed it. Kind of like first it was just hound hunting, then spring bear, then baiting...

[MADMAX]

Good news

https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/public-land-sales-amendment-withdrawn/

[jackelope]

Good news

https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/public-land-sales-amendment-withdrawn/

This is a good start. I assume we’re not done discussing this topic yet. Kudos to Ryan Zinke and co.

[CarbonHunter]

I’m glad a few conservatives actually stood up for the outdoorsman’s of this nation