Muckleshoot/white river forest hunting permits

[aubrey]

Has anyone had any leads with the muckleshoot tribe issuing hunting permits for the white river area near enumclaw? Hancock previously managed permits for that area.

I have had one email from melissa calvert about one year ago. (the lady managing the hunting permits for the white river area) And have heard nothing since.

[RB]

Tag, same here plan on putting in for the tag again this year, but am curios what they will do with access.

[lewy]

   Supposedly they were working on their rec program last year and planned on selling permits but then they went radio silence on us so who knows.

[G.R.K]

Louie Ungaro Tribal Councilmember Is why their is no recreation permits. 

[Falcon]

Louie Ungaro Tribal Councilmember Is why their is no recreation permits. 

Can you share any details ?

[lewy]

Greed, he's done so much illegal stuff over the years and hid under the tribal court it would blow some minds

[lewy]

.....and that's just the stuff he's been caught for

[westside bull]

It's a total joke. When they bought the land pretty sure they were telling everyone they were going to always sell rec permits. Hopefully they can figure things out and throw Louie off the board.

[addicted1]

Based on the amount of ugly no trespassing signs they have nailed to every other tree on the highway.  I really doubt that’s gonna happen.

[Not selected]

What are all their armed security guards for if they’re not gonna sell passes? They need all them guards decked out in tactical gear just to deal with the Indians?

[7mmBuckley]

They have been trying to get away from Hancock for some years now. Yes they have about 7 patrolmen that carry. I was told years ago from Dave the head security guy who is a retired cop from Auburn when they get everything in place they will lock everything up and not be selling any recreation passes. They mostly patrol to keep other tribes off of their land. They own a ton of land and the land they own behind the Buckley gate is like their own little private area because when Hancock closes in the summer and early fall they are in their killing elk all over the place. I have seen them haul out some dandy’s and of course it’s not only on their land. I’ve also found many dead bulls that run to far off the road and they can’t get them back to the road while so they leave them.

[gutsnthegrass]

This is so frustrating. I have been hunting that ground since before it was pay to play. I have emailed Melissa Calvert (who the original email told us to contact) a few times. She was responsive at first, then went silent and won’t answer phone or emails. I have hunted in there with my family in there for years as it was a great place to go for evening hunts after work. I really wish they would at least communicate their intentions instead of just being silent. Seems like a cowards way to do things.

[trophyhunt]

This is so frustrating. I have been hunting that ground since before it was pay to play. I have emailed Melissa Calvert (who the original email told us to contact) a few times. She was responsive at first, then went silent and won’t answer phone or emails. I have hunted in there with my family in there for years as it was a great place to go for evening hunts after work. I really wish they would at least communicate their intentions instead of just being silent. Seems like a cowards way to do things.

100%!!   She has ghosted me as well. 

[lewy]

Sounds like it’s over for non mucks. Gunna miss it, pretty much grew up in that area. Not to many places I haven’t put boots on in there. Makes me wonder if the wr special elk hunt numbers will change some in the near future.

[trophyhunt]

Sounds like it’s over for non mucks. Gunna miss it, pretty much grew up in that area. Not to many places I haven’t put boots on in there. Makes me wonder if the wr special elk hunt numbers will change some in the near future.

It certainly takes a lot of ground out of that hunt, some dang good bulls will be out of reach now. 

[Falcon]

Sounds like it’s over for non mucks. Gunna miss it, pretty much grew up in that area. Not to many places I haven’t put boots on in there. Makes me wonder if the wr special elk hunt numbers will change some in the near future.

It certainly takes a lot of ground out of that hunt, some dang good bulls will be out of reach now.

Dang.  I was counting on my key if I drew the white river bull tag.    If I do draw, that means I’ll actually have to get out of my pickup 

[CarbonHunter]

I wouldn’t be surprised if wdfw just opens the unit up to otc elk hunts now that so little land is actually being regulated by the state.

[lewy]

Boy what a $hit show that would be

[gutsnthegrass]

Boy what a $hit show that would be

Agree, I wonder what the special draws will look like now. Half the unit will be closed now, and I’m sure a majority of the people who draw, hunt the white river (muckleshoot) property.

[Big6bull]

Probably why it’s moving g to bull category if I read correctly.

[Rookie24]

Mellissa Calvert is one of the worst people I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.  She doesn't care and... it shows.

For what it's worth... the watchmen I have talked to think there WILL be a permit in 2025 

[lewy]

Well at this point with their lack of communication it’s all hearsay but I’m hearing the opposite

[Rookie24]

Well at this point with their lack of communication it’s all hearsay but I’m hearing the opposite

Dictionary definition of "hearsay" at this point... While getting a haircut I ran into the old fella watchman who runs around up there and asked him point blank if there would be a rec permit this year and he said:

"That's the expectation but we thought that last March too."   

[trophyhunt]

Two years ago, I talked with a well educated muck guard, nice guy. We talked about this issue, I even said, I wouldn’t be surprised if you guys closed it down and made it a trophy elk hunting area.  He was adamant that, that wouldn’t happen and they were more concerned about numbers than quality. He said they would offer a pass and things wouldn’t change.  I guess he wasn’t in the know

[CarbonHunter]

 

Two years ago, I talked with a well educated muck guard, nice guy. We talked about this issue, I even said, I wouldn’t be surprised if you guys closed it down and made it a trophy elk hunting area.  He was adamant that, that wouldn’t happen and they were more concerned about numbers than quality. He said they would offer a pass and things wouldn’t change.  I guess he wasn’t in the know

I’m shocked that Paul Blart didn’t have accurate information that was being spread on the dirt roads in the woods.

[Falcon]

Anyone else have anything to say on the subject ?   

[Jake Dogfish]

I loved recreating up there before the tribes bought it.

[lewy]

Anyone else have anything to say on the subject ?   

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Yeah, don’t spend a dime at the casinos and this bs would never happen

[hughjorgan]

Anyone else have anything to say on the subject ?   

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Yeah, don’t spend a dime at the casinos and this bs would never happen

Ain’t the white guys spending all their money at the muck casino; it’s the Asians keeping them in the money

[RB]

Anyone else have anything to say on the subject ?   

 

Would like to know this as well before putting in for permits this year???

[Jake Dogfish]

Anyone else have anything to say on the subject ?   

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Yeah, don’t spend a dime at the casinos and this bs would never happen

Ain’t the white guys spending all their money at the muck casino; it’s the Asians keeping them in the money

They have so many sources for money.  Inslee gave them exclusive rights for sports gambling and we can’t “legally” gamble sports online.

[Bucks2Ducks]

Anyone else have anything to say on the subject ?   

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Yeah, don’t spend a dime at the casinos and this bs would never happen

Ain’t the white guys spending all their money at the muck casino; it’s the Asians keeping them in the money

They have so many sources for money.  Inslee gave them exclusive rights for sports gambling and we can’t “legally” gamble sports online.

A lot of these Tribes are making more money of their gas stations than casinos.