Non-residents in Idaho Shed Hunting

[chukardogs]

Oh and just because I'm not mad as hell about something that doesn't affect me in any way, doesn't mean I don't find it asinine. I only have so much anger to give and something like this, no matter how dumb, asinine or ridiculous I find it, meh.

[Broomd]

I was waiting for a response like this, comical. If possible, take your hate for non residents out of the equation.  Ask yourself, should a state require an almost $200 license to pick up shed antlers on national forest land?  If you think that is right, I know how you vote!

Meh, 'hate,' total bullsh*t. Own the whining because in the end that's what it is.  Be grateful for the opportunities that exist! The animals here and their sheds are property of the people of Idaho, the same could be said of Washington's game.  State sovereignty is a thing.

You know nothing about my 'vote' fail to see the relevance anyway.

[trophyhunt]

I was waiting for a response like this, comical. If possible, take your hate for non residents out of the equation.  Ask yourself, should a state require an almost $200 license to pick up shed antlers on national forest land?  If you think that is right, I know how you vote!

Meh, 'hate,' total bullsh*t. Own the whining because in the end that's what it is.  Be grateful for the opportunities that exist! The animals here and their sheds are property of the people of Idaho, the same could be said of Washington's game.  State sovereignty is a thing.

You know nothing about my 'vote' fail to see the relevance anyway.

democrats love stupid laws that restrict peoples rights, just saying. 

[Born2late]

Honestly, I can see Idaho’s point in doing this. The area I hunt over there years ago they had problems with guys driving along the river, shooting bucks at night spotlighting ,then coming back in the spring to get the heads so they could sell the horns to make money. So the deadhead law in Washington to a point, I could see their line of thinking. I still think it’s a dumb law.i think poachers are going to do it no matter what until they get caught. Instead of making it illegal why not just make and enforce a much stiffer penalty on the people that are doing it.
As far as the shed hunting license goes in Idaho, in the area I hunt in the spring there are truckloads of people that come through and do it for a business picking up the sheds to sell. And it’s not hunters they have to go in and pick them up. So I’m wondering if that was some of the motivation to make this law. Maybe to cut down on the big groups that are pushing the wintering deer and elk around.

[Feathernfurr]

This is really in response to neighboring states creating similar regulations. I can see peoples fuss about their “rights”. Wyoming and Utah created similar regulations in recent years, as well as more restrictive shed gathering seasons and closures.. When they did Idaho started getting absolutely r*ped by residents of those two states because they couldn’t recreate in their own. SE Idaho has a lot of winter closures, I’ve seen a good number of guys from wyo and Utah chasing herds on snow machines in closed winter range. It’s absolutely a profit thing for some guys. I know some that make a couple thousand a year selling sheds. Love it or hate it, they needed to do something to protect their resources once their neighbors closed up shop.

[trophyhunt]

Winter closures help the herds, not over charging for a license.  Those idiots chasing animals on snow machines should be easy to catch, and punishment should be harsh, like losing their machine.  Nobody is gonna buy a non resident license just to pick up sheds.  This new law wont detour the flood of people in certain areas one bit, it’s just one more stupid law.

[Feathernfurr]

Winter closures help the herds, not over charging for a license.  Those idiots chasing animals on snow machines should be easy to catch, and punishment should be harsh, like losing their machine.  Nobody is gonna buy a non resident license just to pick up sheds.  This new law wont detour the flood of people in certain areas one bit, it’s just one more stupid law.

It absolutely will control crowds some. I’m sure you have your arguments, but until you live there and have seen it your input just isn’t really valuable. That’s not a disrespect things, it’s just facts. Live there full time year round and see what the locals see then form your opinion. As much as you’d love to think it’s simple to catch those folks it’s just not that easy. That state is made up of so many large tracts of blm, usfs, and state land. Not all law enforcement officers have authority to enforce laws on other agencies land. The blm officers there where a lot of the winter closures exist are spread thing. By requiring individuals to have a license it gives officers the authority to hold people accountable on federal lands. In many of the winter closures the fine for shed hunting is $75 and forfeiture of their antlers. It’s an absolute slap on the wrist. With the license requirement it just gives idfg officers a better tool to protect the resources. I understand people’s love of freedom and dislike for government oversight. But we as outdoorsman have proven time and time again that we can’t be left to our own devices to recreate responsibly, and so the government is forced to step in when we can’t respect the resources. A lot of Washington residents like to treat Idaho like it’s the Wild West and get upset now that they’re starting to step up and protect their resources. Washington, as most of you have said, has gone to chit for hunting and fishing. Respect Idaho’s resources and management and theirs won’t go to crap like Washington has. If you don’t like it, then move there.

[Broomd]

democrats love stupid laws that restrict peoples rights, just saying.

On that we can agree. But Idaho isn't restricting here, simply capitalizing on a resource.

I've been called many things in my life, but never a democrat.

[chukardogs]

 I've been called a whiner, an idiot, a democrat, a socialist and half the problem just because I have certain things that matter to me and certain things I just can't get worked up about. I just wish my mom was still alive so I could have shown her that I was only "half the problem" and said, see, I've said all along that I'm not 100 percent of the problem in this family.
 I'll probably be called far worse before it's over so, meh' oh well. If it makes some on here feel good to call people names, whether they have even the slightest clue who they're corresponding with, c'est la vie! Tomorrow's a new day.
 

[Wood2Sawdust]

I know nothing about this but --How do the 3 million acres of National Forest fit into this?

[HillHound]

I suppose Washington should require you to have a Fishing or at least a clamming license to pick up any driftwood or seashells at the ocean if you are not a Washington resident. Just a $75 fine and of course an additional amount per shell and stick if caught…. Where does it stop?

[CarbonHunter]

Other states do the same and next year you will be required to buy a non refundable hunting license just to apply for a general over the counter deer or elk tag in Idaho. If this bothers you this much either move to Idaho or don’t go there.

I personally feel if the groups that don’t hunt but benefit from game animals contributed to the fund the world would be a better place and hunters would be hated less if they had to pay as well. If you collect from the land or even enjoy just watching and photography pay up and join us hunters who choose to hunt.

[Bullkllr]

I suppose Washington should require you to have a Fishing or at least a clamming license to pick up any driftwood or seashells at the ocean if you are not a Washington resident. Just a $75 fine and of course an additional amount per shell and stick if caught…. Where does it stop?

I'm pretty sure there are already some kinda laws about removing driftwood and shells.

[chukardogs]

You can't even pick up a piece of wood for the fire in a campground now days. Big butt fine if you're caught foraging firewood in a campground. I mean, c'mon, I pulled my chainsaw out and started working on a tree next to the site I as at and they confiscated my saw, my matches and wrote me a ticket. Next they'll tell us, we can't drink from the creek.

[CarbonHunter]

You better not drink that water without water permit! Honestly it’s illegal to collect water from your own downspouts and people are surprised they want a permit to pickup an antler?