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Quote from: Angry Perch on April 02, 2025, 03:27:37 PMQuote from: Dan-o on March 13, 2025, 07:49:17 PMQuote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.Apples and Fairy Tales.Can you give me an example of when the federal gov has actually ever been audited? I'm probably responding to multiple posts here, but when has a 3rd party ever came in and audited the system, and given recommendations on public tac payer funded programs. EVERYONE should watch his fox interview with the dodge team a few days ago. I would love to know when this type of audit has ever taken place, with the business leaders it involved helping, all for free and as transparent as possible.. musk has said so many times we will make mistakes, and the mistakes will be corrected,. Like someone posted before, trump literally ran on the idea that he would have elon and his team help with finding gov waste. And he won, and his honoring his promise. I'm surprised people are confused with this.
Quote from: Dan-o on March 13, 2025, 07:49:17 PMQuote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.Apples and Fairy Tales.
Quote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.
Quote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.
So who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years
Quote from: 85yota on April 02, 2025, 05:38:46 PMQuote from: Angry Perch on April 02, 2025, 03:27:37 PMQuote from: Dan-o on March 13, 2025, 07:49:17 PMQuote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.Apples and Fairy Tales.Can you give me an example of when the federal gov has actually ever been audited? I'm probably responding to multiple posts here, but when has a 3rd party ever came in and audited the system, and given recommendations on public tac payer funded programs. EVERYONE should watch his fox interview with the dodge team a few days ago. I would love to know when this type of audit has ever taken place, with the business leaders it involved helping, all for free and as transparent as possible.. musk has said so many times we will make mistakes, and the mistakes will be corrected,. Like someone posted before, trump literally ran on the idea that he would have elon and his team help with finding gov waste. And he won, and his honoring his promise. I'm surprised people are confused with this.I don't have a problem with an audit, just need to remember this is the government not a business. Businesses don't have the personal records of virtually everyone. The have the information you have given them, by choice, that's needed to carry out a business transaction. The various agencies being audited make available to the auditor virtually everything there is to know about you. I'm not comfortable with this being done by anonymous teams that have not been vetted and we are told "don't worry, you can trust em". The information they're compiling is information that marketing managers spend millions on to try to gather. Maybe you're comfortable with all your personal information being gathered like this, but I'm not.
These folks are Elon Musks employees (check out who's paying them) Government employees in these sensitive positions are required to go thru an intensive background check, with serious checks in place as to how much information is made available to them and serious penalties for divulging that info. Sure, there can still be problems, but at least we know who the employees are. Thus far the actual list, names etc. of these various auditors is not available. So far there have been reports of these auditors showing up with DOGE credentials and demanding access to information that, at times, is very personal and considered sensitive. All I'm wanting is some guarantee that all.this info their gathering is being guarded and doesn't come back to bite us in the future. I can't be too trusting when I really don't know who I'm supposed to trust
That appears to.be a foggy question. Technically they say they are government employees but apparently they are currently or recently hired personnel from Musk enterprises. Musk is employed by the government, like many contractors, but that doesn't automatically make his employees government employees. It's one of those kinda shady things that makes me a bit nervous.. Apparently most are apparently very sophisticated tech people. I'm pretty naive on that stuff which makes me even more nervous.
