Pro tip for shed hunting

[Rainier10]

Here is a pro tip for shed hunters, wait until the elk actually drop a their antlers. If you go out now you are just going to get a bunch of old chalky white antlers and push a bunch of elk around. And if you are going to go out this early stay off private property. At least this guy is on foot the guy last week was on a 50cc mini dirt bike smack dab in the middle of my property behind a gate. So frustrating.

[Rainier10]

Mini bike also on private property and behind a gate.

[Mtnwalker]

That is infuriating, what a bummer that you have to deal with that so regularly. If I was you I would consider a few bait sheds near the roads with a better camera setup?

[MeepDog]

The fish cops should use bait sheds with little gps transmitters inside. Might want to contact law enforcement again and see if they'll try and set something up. If they can hide an air tag they can hide anything.

[Rainier10]

Those are both cell cameras so I get real time photos. I used to have regular cameras but authorities said they needed to catch them in the act so I got cell cameras. I report the trespassing when they go in first thing in the morning knowing they will be coming out at dark. Nobody comes to investigate until the next day when the trespassers are gone.

These are cameras that have been shot, smashed, dumped in water holes or just flat out stolen. Owning your own slice of heaven can be a nightmare at times.

[MeepDog]

If the area is heavily posted with signage you could probably get them for criminal trespass. I would think cops would be interested in that but maybe theyre too focused on speeding tickets and parking violations.

[Rainier10]

There is a sign every 100 yards in most places and every 25 yards in others. Most every guest that I have had up to my place has asked what my sign budget is because it is so heavily posted. From the spot the guy with the sheds is standing you can see 9 signs that say access by written permission only which we grant to a lot of people.  That is another that people have mentioned, “why are there so many signs right here?” Because this is one of the highest trespassed areas.

[pd]

Owning your own slice of heaven can be a nightmare at times.

Pro tip for those who dream of buying hunting property.

[Rainier10]

Just to the north of me is DNR, everyone’s dream own a piece of land that backs up to DNR or national forest. Careful what you wish for.

If people just walked through it would be one thing but they park vehicles off road, leave trash, make fire pits, leave gates open, trash my cameras, ride mini bikes, full sized motorcycles, side by sides and full sized vehicles on a private road that is closed to motorized vehicles.

I caught one guy on a Honda 90. “There weren’t even any sheds back here some jerk came in here on a tracked side by side and got them before we could get in here, someone should write that guy a ticket.”  Really?! Because they trespassed before you did?!

they shoot deer or elk on my place because “it’s really close to DNR” or they were “on DNR when they shot the deer that was on private”.

I don’t know that those sheds came from my place but also don’t know that they didn’t come from my place.

I could go in two or three guided hunts a year with the money I pay each year in property taxes and instead I deal with jack wagons trespassing.

[Feathernfurr]

Can you gate the road?

[Rainier10]

Can you gate the road?

It is gated, one end is locked the other is not.

[Feathernfurr]

Gotcha, it’s a bummer that you’ve got such a chronic issue. Not sure what the answer is and won’t speculate what a solution may look like. I picture a world where you follow these fellas up into the mountains and disable their vehicles but two wrongs doesn’t make a right.

[pd]

I could go in two or three guided hunts a year with the money I pay each year in property taxes and instead I deal with jack wagons trespassing.

I can feel your pain, Sir.  As Feathernfurr said, I am not sure what the solution (if any) is.

[Rainier10]

It’s really just about education. It has gotten better but there are always new people that need to be educated.

It’s just frustrating to see guys in there pushing animals before the antlers drop and before snow melts and new green forage comes up.

[LDennis24]

The reality of public land people. "I have a right to get to the public land behind you!" Woooooooo! Unlawful Inclosures Act!

The reality is that its abused constantly because LEO simply can't handle it properly. Calling them does nothing anymore because they have to choose between your property rights or going to the domestic violence episode over who took the last hit of fentanyl and obviously they are not coming to your place.  But the corner crossing ruling will surely solve all of this kind of stuff. They will start going to those places now and stop trespassing for a short cut to the public land. I have faith.

[Rob]

Mini bike also on private property and behind a gate.

A sapling bent back that swipes the road horizontally when triggered would make for some fun trail cam footage of that guy on the bike.  Legal implications aside of course!

[jrebel]

Mini bike also on private property and behind a gate.

A sapling bent back that swipes the road horizontally when triggered would make for some fun trail cam footage of that guy on the bike.  Legal implications aside of course!

They make really cool bear deterrence devices that would be fun as well.....for both walking and bike trespassers.      180 decibel flash bang!!   

[trophyhunt]

With antlers dropping now and for the next month, would it cost much to have a security guard post up somewhere?  Maybe worth it if the word gets out amunst the locals and it cuts down the trespassing a bit??

[Dan-o]

There is a sign every 100 yards in most places and every 25 yards in others. Most every guest that I have had up to my place has asked what my sign budget is because it is so heavily posted. From the spot the guy with the sheds is standing you can see 9 signs that say access by written permission only which we grant to a lot of people.  That is another that people have mentioned, “why are there so many signs right here?” Because this is one of the highest trespassed areas.

I remarked about your sign budget because it is so thoroughly posted. 
We'd stop at a few random spots just to exercise the sign count.  It was typically 4-5 visible signs from a given spot. 

Trespassers suck. 

[RC]

Wouldn't suprise me if these are people you've given access to in the past, even years ago.  I've talked to many landowners that justifiably complain about giving access to someone one time, and then that person (and all their friends and family) assumes that you are now BFFs and have access 24/7 year round to do whatever they want on your property for the rest of their life. 

[zwickeyman]

I trespassed one time about 50 years ago and got an ass full of rock salt. That was all I needed

[jrebel]

Wouldn't suprise me if these are people you've given access to in the past, even years ago.  I've talked to many landowners that justifiably complain about giving access to someone one time, and then that person (and all their friends and family) assumes that you are now BFFs and have access 24/7 year round to do whatever they want on your property for the rest of their life. 

This is easily remedied with a yearly contract with signatures.  Contract that clearly states date / timeframe in which the person is allowed on the property.  Then has a set of initials that clearly states:
1.  Outside of those dates w/out further signed permission would be considered trespassing.
2.  who...with names is allowed to "accompany" the signer.
3. etc. etc. etc. 

That would remove all doubt and assumptions that folks may make. 

[Rainier10]

Wouldn't suprise me if these are people you've given access to in the past, even years ago.  I've talked to many landowners that justifiably complain about giving access to someone one time, and then that person (and all their friends and family) assumes that you are now BFFs and have access 24/7 year round to do whatever they want on your property for the rest of their life. 

This is easily remedied with a yearly contract with signatures.  Contract that clearly states date / timeframe in which the person is allowed on the property.  Then has a set of initials that clearly states:
1.  Outside of those dates w/out further signed permission would be considered trespassing.
2.  who...with names is allowed to "accompany" the signer.
3. etc. etc. etc. 

That would remove all doubt and assumptions that folks may make.

Exactly. We have that covered. I have a contract with rules for use of the property, I list what parcels they have access to and what season archery muzzy or modern. They also sign a release of liability if they get hurt on my property. After signing they get a colored laminated card granting permission with their name on it, what parcels they are allowed on and what season. 2020 was yellow cards, 2021 blue and so on. Card also has year but if you have the correct color for the year and run into someone who says they have permission they better have the same color. If you have a card you are more inclined to run off those that don’t.

If you have a bunch of land everyone knows who you are and tosses your name around like they are best friends with you.

It’s really fun to run into people who say yeah I know Rainier10 but I forgot my card. Oh really, do you know him well? Yep went to school with him. Uh… I didn’t go to school with you. Uh oh, you’re actually Rainier10 aren’t you? Yep, get off my property.

[boneaddict]

I wonder if some of your problem is because of historical areas. I mean I used to shed hunt the heck out of that area, and I was not alone. Some big shed hunters like littlefoot, and his kids were in the hood. I’m not saying that makes it right. I quit even going into the area as I didn’t want to trespass.  I wonder if they look at you as a “newcomer” California type, so screw you. Eastsiders are sometimes peculiar that way.  Open land that is now claimed

[Rainier10]

I wonder if some of your problem is because of historical areas. I mean I used to shed hunt the heck out of that area, and I was not alone. Some big shed hunters like littlefoot, and his kids were in the hood. I’m not saying that makes it right. I quit even going into the area as I didn’t want to trespass.  I wonder if they look at you as a “newcomer” California type, so screw you. Eastsiders are sometimes peculiar that way.  Open land that is now claimed

For sure it’s what they’ve done for years. Not only that many of them have aged out but tell newcomers go up this road out this gate up this ridge, hunting used to be really good up there. The first couple of years I was way more lenient but over the years you just get sick of the way people trash your place and it’s just not worth the hassle of allowing access.

[bearhunter99]

It’s really fun to run into people who say yeah I know Rainier10 but I forgot my card. Oh really, do you know him well? Yep went to school with him. Uh… I didn’t go to school with you. Uh oh, you’re actually Rainier10 aren’t you? Yep, get off my property.
[/quote]

I get that all the time. 
Who gave you permission to be here? 
"So and so did" 
when? 
"about a month ago"
Can you let me know how you contacted him?  Grandpa has been gone since 2012 and I sure would love to talk to him again...  (that usually produces a deer in the headlights look) 

[Rainier10]

I wonder if some of your problem is because of historical areas. I mean I used to shed hunt the heck out of that area, and I was not alone. Some big shed hunters like littlefoot, and his kids were in the hood. I’m not saying that makes it right. I quit even going into the area as I didn’t want to trespass.  I wonder if they look at you as a “newcomer” California type, so screw you. Eastsiders are sometimes peculiar that way.  Open land that is now claimed

For sure it’s what they’ve done for years. Not only that many of them have aged out but tell newcomers go up this road out this gate up this ridge, hunting used to be really good up there. The first couple of years I was way more lenient but over the years you just get sick of the way people trash your place and it’s just not worth the hassle of allowing access.

I should probably add that I shed hunted and big game hunted that land for twenty years before it came up for sale. It was for sale for two years before I finally bought it. Anyone and everyone could have bought it before I did.

[Caveman123]

How do I get written permission? No idea what part of the state you are in but I like to take my wife hunting and yell at trespassers. Have delt with this on some friends property’s that I thought I hit the loto by getting permission to hunt. I have a friend that allowed public access to his land and someone started using it instead of the local dump, so he had to gate it. Sorry so see this happen to you.