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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2009, 08:56:09 AM »
I love it when the feds lie........
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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2009, 09:11:03 AM »
(Originally planned as part of a recovery program for the northern Rockies, where wolves were brought in, the effort could become unique to Washington because of the apparently burgeoning population)

This artical was written in1992, before the wolf introduction,,,, So whats up? Would appear as if they had already planted some wolves in the Nothern Rockies.

(connect the dots) :chuckle: :bash:

Restoring Wolves to the Northern Rockies
The return of wolves to the Northern Rockies was initiated by animals seeking new territory from the north. Wolves from Canada began to recolonize northwestern Montana by the late 1970s, and the first litter of pups to be born in this region in half a century was documented at Glacier National Park in 1986



Although lone wolves had occasionally been sighted in the latter two areas, no evidence of breeding populations had been documented. Thus, in June 1994, after several years of intense political and legal activity, the FWS issued a Final Environmental Impact Statement to reintroduce wolves to central Idaho and Yellowstone. The reintroduction was officially approved after a year of public hearings and an unprecedented show of support from more than 100,000 impassioned Americans

http://www.defenders.org/programs_and_policy/wildlife_conservation/imperiled_species/wolves/wolf_recovery_efforts/northern_rockies_wolves/background_and_recovery/index.php

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2009, 09:13:18 AM »
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Although lone wolves had occasionally been sighted in the latter two areas, no evidence of breeding populations had been documented. Thus, in June 1994, after several years of intense political and legal activity, the FWS issued a Final Environmental Impact Statement to reintroduce wolves to central Idaho and Yellowstone. The reintroduction was officially approved after a year of public hearings and an unprecedented show of support from more than 100,000 impassioned Americans

I bet there is somthing in there that allowed them to introduce in washington.
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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2009, 09:32:15 AM »
I love it when the feds lie........

Well the do THAT all the time, I would love it if they would actually tell the truth!
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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2009, 09:42:26 AM »
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Although lone wolves had occasionally been sighted in the latter two areas, no evidence of breeding populations had been documented. Thus, in June 1994, after several years of intense political and legal activity, the FWS issued a Final Environmental Impact Statement to reintroduce wolves to central Idaho and Yellowstone. The reintroduction was officially approved after a year of public hearings and an unprecedented show of support from more than 100,000 impassioned Americans

I bet there is somthing in there that allowed them to introduce in washington.
find it.

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2009, 01:15:35 PM »
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Although lone wolves had occasionally been sighted in the latter two areas, no evidence of breeding populations had been documented. Thus, in June 1994, after several years of intense political and legal activity, the FWS issued a Final Environmental Impact Statement to reintroduce wolves to central Idaho and Yellowstone. The reintroduction was officially approved after a year of public hearings and an unprecedented show of support from more than 100,000 impassioned Americans

I bet there is somthing in there that allowed them to introduce in washington.
find it.

Plan on it. I started out not knowing to much about the wolf issue, or wolves for that matter. I have followed a paper trail over several mountain ranges, and I think I may be closin in  :hunter:

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2009, 01:22:27 PM »
i can't wait.
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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2009, 01:22:50 PM »
Thats sweet.  I think its cool to justifyu what my gut has been telling me for months.

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2009, 01:42:18 PM »
I would be willin to bet by tonight there will be some pro-wolfers and game department people doing abit of tooth gnashing and clinching of fist. Could be that from now on the birdbrains running the show will have to ask when,and if they can talk to the newspaper people.

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2009, 01:43:21 PM »
since everyone's cutting and pasting...

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In January 1995, 29 wolves were captured from healthy populations in Canada and transported to reintroduction areas in the northern Rocky Mountains. Upon arrival, 15 of these wolves were released directly into central Idaho (including the Selway-Bitterroot, Frank Church River-of-no-Return, and Gospel-Hump Wildernesses). In March, after several weeks in acclimation pens, the other 14 wolves were released into the Yellowstone area.

In January 1996, an additional 37 wolves were captured in Canada and transported to the same reintroduction areas. Twenty of these were released directly into central Idaho, and, after several weeks in acclimation pens, the other 17 were released into Yellowstone. In September 1996, 10 wolf pups from a population in northwestern Montana were moved to the Yellowstone area. These pups were translocated as a result of repeated depredation of livestock by wolves in their pack that forced authorities to destroy several of the adults. To date, FWS has reintroduced a total of 41 wolves into the Yellowstone area and 35 wolves into central Idaho. The Nez Perce Tribe in Idaho has primary management responsibility, with funding provided under a cooperative agreement with FWS.

The success of the recovery program has exceeded FWS expectations and has prompted Secretary Babbitt to announce that further reintroductions will not be necessary in the northern Rocky Mountain area. While some losses of wolves have occurred, the rate of mortality in the wolf populations has been far lower than anticipated. Several wolves have been killed illegally, with others dying from natural causes or accidents, or being destroyed by FWS and ADC for repeated attacks on livestock. In addition, wolf packs in both Yellowstone and Idaho have produced several successful litters in the breeding seasons since their release. The Yellowstone population now approaches 100 wolves and the central Idaho population has grown to approximately 70 wolves. In northwestern Montana, where populations have naturally immigrated from Canada, FWS estimates there to be 100 - 120 wolves. Thus, recovery goals may be met ahead of schedule and at lower cost.


if there's 100-120 wolves (in 1997) in NW montana that got there on their own from canada, why is everyone so convinced that a dozen or so wolves didn't make it to the methow on their own? or anywhere else in that region???

or are they all lying...

i'm learning as i go here...
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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2009, 02:02:19 PM »
Wolfbait is my hero :IBCOOL:
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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2009, 02:18:22 PM »
Someone needs to lay these out in a chronological order with # of wolves in WA so we get a true picture of what is really going on here. 

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2009, 02:33:38 PM »
it'll take a little more than chronological order at this point.

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2009, 03:27:51 PM »
it'll take a little more than chronological order at this point.


Little bity question? If these wolves were already movin in on their own? why jump the gun and slam these other wolves in? Well thats where Money for the feds and agenda for environmentalists part comes into focas. Now lets look at Washington, we already had wolves coming in since 1980, confirmed packs. why all of a sudden do we get more wolves right here in the valley,,via white shwan wolf trucks. It all comes down to the almighty dollar. these people would shoot their own country in the neck for more money. 

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Re: Time for Delisting in Washinton!
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2009, 03:30:30 PM »
I think its very unlikely that packs of wolves would just appear in twisp if they were not planted.

They were planted in the methow because a large % of the population is *censored* for brains and loves the idea of magical dogs howling all night.
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