Cannon or Scotty downrigger?

[Ghost Hunter]

Want two for a 14' Valco.  I know; boat, fishing, and budget don't go together well.  Primarily for kokanee fishing?  Side wind or top wind?  I'll need to add 6" pedestal to flat base.  Cannon has some decent aluminum ones.  Don't need/want electric.  Have swivel seats but still tight maneuvering.  Considering the Cannon Easi-Troll manual.  I'm generally on the pay once, cry once list.  Suggestions, recommendations?

[GWP]

I have the top wind Scotty and am happy with it. The top wind has a bit lower profile (my take) which can be good.

[pickardjw]

I've had good luck with the Penn Fathom-Master downriggers. Discontinued but often on the used market and there's a company making parts for them. Very easy to work on.

Bought mine used up in Lake Stevens. Looks like there are some for sale on FB Marketplace in Oly and Puyallup.

I've used the horizontal wind scotties before and prefer the vertical wind.

[Stein]

If it is a manual, I would for sure go with vertical wind unless you only plan on light downrigger balls, like 4#.  It's way easier to crank and develop torque vertical vs horizontal.  The manual downriggers are much more reliable than electric, find one you like used at a good price.

[CP]

I'll 2nd the vintage Penn Fathom-Master if you can find them.  Even more rare is the swivel base for them, snap those up if you can find them.

Troll-Master makes a clone that they call the Seahorse.  I don't know how good they are, but they look identical.  I believe that Cabela's carries them.

[C-Money]

If it is a manual, I would for sure go with vertical wind unless you only plan on light downrigger balls, like 4#.  It's way easier to crank and develop torque vertical vs horizontal.  The manual downriggers are much more reliable than electric, find one you like used at a good price.

  Especially in a 14ft boat. I'd go Cannon. I do like both brands though.

[RB]

I'll 2nd the vintage Penn Fathom-Master if you can find them.  Even more rare is the swivel base for them, snap those up if you can find them.

Troll-Master makes a clone that they call the Seahorse.  I don't know how good they are, but they look identical.  I believe that Cabela's carries them.

3rd for Penn have four and they just keep cranking! Only bad part for any manual is going below 100 feet takes a bit to wind it back up.

[h2ofowlr]

Penn, Scotty and Cannon all make a manual hand crank downrigger.  Penn and Scotty's are easy to use and parts are available for both.  Scotty has lots of parts available if needed.  I run both Scotty and Penn on my boat and no issues with either.

[Ghost Hunter]

Give me a lot to think about.  Likely won't exceed 4lbs. or 100'.  Hadn't looked at Penn's.  Just stopped at Talon this morning.  Good outfit, replaced a kokanee rod that failed on my 2nd trip out.  Prefer not to put another weight on it.  Hoping I fixed a small leak in the boat today.  Slowly working out the bugs.  Not sure I'll have time for another run before i head east for early archery season.  Next question will be on fish finders.

[Happy Gilmore]

Get a good used halibut rod. Dual purpose

[Ghost Hunter]

Get a good used halibut rod. Dual purpose

   Hmmm.  Got one of those.  Do I need a 2-pole endorsement?   

[Happy Gilmore]

Get a good used halibut rod. Dual purpose

   Hmmm.  Got one of those.  Do I need a 2-pole endorsement?   

You might get checked because it looks like it but, as 4lb ball and release isnt fishing.

[EnglishSetter]

In a 14' I'd go vertical spool.  I had manual Scotty on a 17' inboard with rails, so you were standing effectively over the spool and found it to be fine, but not a 14' low mount from a chair.  That would be grueling.

The Penns are/were the shiznit.

[GWP]

I ran the manual Scotty with a 12 lb ball on one side with a flasher array and a Big Jon electric on the other side with a 9 lb for the pole with the hooks on it.
The lake I was on most of the time is a single pole lake and I got called in for it a few times and got checked. No issues as there was no hooks on the flasher array. It let me know someone on the lake was watching.
My manual horiz Scotty has a handle that extends out for more leverage but pushes in to keep it out of the way. Not sure if all of them do, but I had an even heavier ball on it at one point and it was doable and it held fine.

[pbg]

Well here's my 2 cents, I used Scotty's and Cannons and the Penn's and the Cannon's and Penn's are by far the fastest as far as cranking that ball up and the other thing you will never get is a wire jump like what can happen with a Scotty.