Idaho on the verge of outlawing

[NOCK NOCK]

WOW!!!!! Honestly don't really know what to say to that.....edit: I do, but I wont say them, JS........except I guess I am a bad hunter that doesn't know much. 

[Feathernfurr]

I wouldn’t be an advocate for banning them if I hadn’t seen the results myself. I miss the days of going into the woods and my imagination running wild at what may come my way. The cameras remove a lot of that. Nowadays I know *just about* everyday I’m likely to encounter. They’ve given me enough confidence to enter each season with the mindset that I am 100% going to have a shot opportunity on a nice buck. Mind you this is all with a bow and inside of 20 yards on shots.

[Machias]

   Straight up cheating, too fricken funny.  I guess I suck at cheating.   
Sitting on the couch watching a football game and receive a notification on my phone.  Pull my hand out of my crotch,  get dressed, drive down and buy my tag cause I know I'm going to bag that buck.  Walk out and shoot it.  But hey, I've never used one cause I like to hunt.  So full of crap.  I know most of the guys against them have this wildly inflated idea of how they are used.  I guess my deer and elk are way too smart for this old hillbilly.  They literally NEVER pattern themselves on my cameras.  They might come through a spot in the morning and then not come back by for literally days, if not weeks.  Some of you guys crack me up. (In my rickety old man voice) I know its true cause I seen a feller use it that way.  😊

[NOCK NOCK]

I hear ya Machias, I suck at cheating too!

I too am curious where these guys are hunting that they can pattern deer that easy.   

@FnF     east or west side?   

[BeerBugler]

Wow, this is creepy. A bunch of people that have given up all their rights to an authoritarian state discussing limiting the rights of people in a free state! Please, say whatever you want on this forum but think about the above statement before you comment to IDFG;we would like to keep it from becoming IDFW.

[HUNTIN4SIX]

  Straight up cheating, too fricken funny.  I guess I suck at cheating.   
Sitting on the couch watching a football game and receive a notification on my phone.  Pull my hand out of my crotch,  get dressed, drive down and buy my tag cause I know I'm going to bag that buck.  Walk out and shoot it.  But hey, I've never used one cause I like to hunt.  So full of crap.  I know most of the guys against them have this wildly inflated idea of how they are used.  I guess my deer and elk are way too smart for this old hillbilly.  They literally NEVER pattern themselves on my cameras.  They might come through a spot in the morning and then not come back by for literally days, if not weeks.  Some of you guys crack me up. (In my rickety old man voice) I know its true cause I seen a feller use it that way.  😊

Laughing over here too.... folks that claim cameras do nothing for them and have no contributing factor to success but yet they spend chit loads of money on them and put them everywhere....hmmmm.    Have another one

P.S.  (with my 50 yr old man voice)  Great Grandpa Machias, how did you do it all those years without all these cameras?   

[Feathernfurr]

This predominantly experience from Idaho, but worked on the west side last year, and is likely to work on the west side again this year.

I think y’all are thinking of this too simply. This isn’t “oh my camera went off, let me cutoff the football game and go shoot an animal”. I’ll tell you now I hunt more than most people, like I’m in a stand almost everyday of the seasons I’m able to hunt whether it’s a morning or evening. When you take someone that hunts that much, the cell cameras make an impact. At any given time I have 5-6 tree stands in a number of different locations for different wind conditions, and different phases of the season. I can have all the plans in the world to hunt one of those, but when I wake up in the morning to put that plan in place, if I have photos of bucks at a different spot overnight, there is a high likelihood I change my plans. It’s not always about a “pattern”, sometimes(especially during the rut) it’s about is there a buck in the area.

Think about your non cell cam. Back in the day you’d toss one in your bag and go scout an area, you find some good runs, trails, bedding, etc and toss one up. You maybe leave it to soak for a week or two before you ever go back, or consider hunting that spot. With the cell camera, you get a great buck within 24 hours, I bet you’re hunting it the next day. It’s an undeniable advantage, otherwise they wouldn’t exist.

[dreadi]

How about we just let people have nice things that are not hurting anyone.


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[bornhunter]

Nothing on the website indicating open for public comment on this issue.

[NOCK NOCK]

One last reply to this and I’m done

FnF, from what I’m gathering it sounds like you’re the type of Hunter this law is targeting. To each their own I don’t care how you hunt but, there’s a lot of hunters like myself that still hunt and don’t rely on any type of camera to help us hunt. They’re just fun. Get to see a lot of cool, interactions and critters. If they’re not allowed that time of year, then I don’t get to see bulls battle on a camera. Etc etc.

All a few of us are saying is quit giving up our rights/privelages. It’s been proven over and over and over again that they’ll just keep taking. 

[Mtnwalker]

Nothing on the website indicating open for public comment on this issue.

https://idfg.idaho.gov/about/rulemaking

[Feathernfurr]

One last reply to this and I’m done

FnF, from what I’m gathering it sounds like you’re the type of Hunter this law is targeting. To each their own I don’t care how you hunt but, there’s a lot of hunters like myself that still hunt and don’t rely on any type of camera to help us hunt. They’re just fun. Get to see a lot of cool, interactions and critters. If they’re not allowed that time of year, then I don’t get to see bulls battle on a camera. Etc etc.

All a few of us are saying is quit giving up our rights/privelages. It’s been proven over and over and over again that they’ll just keep taking.

I can understand that, but I assure you there are more using them like me, and I’d argue I’m on the low end. I have 6 cell cameras, I know guys running 40 plus cell cameras.

If it’s truly about the cool things you see, regular cameras can fulfill that desire.

I can understand your mentality of not giving anything up. I’d guess people made the same argument when they used to be allowed to rifle hunt elk and mule deer on the winter range in late December. There are certain things that need to be regulated or given up. Curbing the impacts of technology absolutely needs to be addressed. In the end this is an initiative in Idaho, brought up by Idahoans. This website so frequently has arguments about what is going on in Idaho. So many Washington residents arguing about what Idaho needs. Idaho isn’t Washington, and at the end of the day the residents of Idaho get to decide how that state is managed. I’ve lived in a number of other states and they’re making restrictive regulations, or have already made them, and it’s because they genuinely care about wildlife conservation and preservation of hunting traditions. Lifelong Washington residents have been burned by this state and have knee jerk reactions because of it, you just can’t apply Washington’s management downfalls on other states.

[NOCK NOCK]

And because of that. Idaho is FAST becoming another Cali-WA.

Stay tuned.

[Machias]

  Straight up cheating, too fricken funny.  I guess I suck at cheating.   
Sitting on the couch watching a football game and receive a notification on my phone.  Pull my hand out of my crotch,  get dressed, drive down and buy my tag cause I know I'm going to bag that buck.  Walk out and shoot it.  But hey, I've never used one cause I like to hunt.  So full of crap.  I know most of the guys against them have this wildly inflated idea of how they are used.  I guess my deer and elk are way too smart for this old hillbilly.  They literally NEVER pattern themselves on my cameras.  They might come through a spot in the morning and then not come back by for literally days, if not weeks.  Some of you guys crack me up. (In my rickety old man voice) I know its true cause I seen a feller use it that way.  😊

Laughing over here too.... folks that claim cameras do nothing for them and have no contributing factor to success but yet they spend chit loads of money on them and put them everywhere....hmmmm.    Have another one

P.S.  (with my 50 yr old man voice)  Great Grandpa Machias, how did you do it all those years without all these cameras?   

  I still do a LOT of scouting the old fashion way, because I love being out in the woods.  I have 6 cellular cameras, generally three are on my bear baits.  The other three are scattered around my property, one on my driveway for security reasons, one where I have a blind set up on my 20 acres and one down in a canyon a few miles from the house.  Most of my hunting is in areas I don't run cameras, probably why I'm not so lethal with them.  Why do I like running cameras. I get a huge kick out of the photos and videos. 

[mikey549]

I am 70 years old and have  been hunting for 60 years in this state. It is a sad state of affairs concerning big game populations from then to now. With the huge population growth and political climate this state is doomed for sportsman in the future. Who can blame Idaho for trying to slow down and protect what they have. For me it boils down to what hunting is supposed to be, two words. Fair chase is not knowing where a harvestable animal is while sitting in your living room. Then changing your hunting plans because of the pics you just received. Unfortunately, that is the reality that is now happening and is why this technology is facing more and more scrutiny. I am sure IDFG wishes not to be the next Cali-Wa