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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2025, 02:20:22 PM »
Check the wolf budget at WDFW, $1.6 million recently, less than $140,000 paid out for dead livestock.  Major cluster

The largest cattle producer in NE WA, who has suffered more cattle loss than any other producer in the state, refuses to accept a dollar from wdfw for depredations

Do you know why he won't accept any of their money?

I think it’s a matter of pride, he told me that one day and I never dug too deep on it. 

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2025, 04:44:34 PM »
Money offered for direct kills is a very small % of the losses and comes with strings with the WDFW, a very discouraging process.  Lights, flags, range riders and more

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2025, 05:15:58 PM »
How can a state judge block anything to do with wolves, I thought and read that the wolf problem is a federal thing?

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2025, 06:45:14 PM »
How can a state judge block anything to do with wolves, I thought and read that the wolf problem is a federal thing?

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They are delisted federally in eastern WA. It’s entirely a state issue that there are no seasons and no bag limits and no management.


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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2025, 07:04:46 PM »
How can a state judge block anything to do with wolves, I thought and read that the wolf problem is a federal thing?

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They are delisted federally in eastern WA. It’s entirely a state issue that there are no seasons and no bag limits and no management.


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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2025, 07:07:13 PM »
How can a state judge block anything to do with wolves, I thought and read that the wolf problem is a federal thing?

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They are delisted federally in eastern WA. It’s entirely a state issue that there are no seasons and no bag limits and no management.


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lol you know what I meant. It’s why they aren’t a game animal and have seasons or bag limits like they should equivalent to ID. The feds turned them over to the state and the state gets to decide how the resource is managed or in this case mis-managed.


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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2025, 07:14:10 PM »
Well after just returning from a deer hunt in 101, i see the need to remove a wolf or 2.  The area I tend to hunt in the 101 has in the past 7 yrs had many deer seen every day, with sign galore.  This yr although deer were seen, it was a small number compared to yrs past.  Opening day, I ran into a wolf track in the soft dirt.  The next morning roughly 1 mile from the track I heard several wolfs howling across from me on the next ridge.  This was all fairly close to Sherman pass. 

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2025, 07:06:32 AM »
Check the wolf budget at WDFW, $1.6 million recently, less than $140,000 paid out for dead livestock.  Major cluster

The largest cattle producer in NE WA, who has suffered more cattle loss than any other producer in the state, refuses to accept a dollar from wdfw for depredations

Do you know why he won't accept any of their money?

I think it’s a matter of pride, he told me that one day and I never dug too deep on it.

He probably understands that taking money from government in this case could essentially be contracting.   WDFW doesn't just show up with a check.  Its one big game, I wouldn't except money either.  I was told I could get a elk depredation tag after 200+ elk ran through all my fences, and I said no.  Giving out depredation money and tags does nothing but give folks a warm fuzzy.  WDFW just plain needs to manage OUR wildlife better. It is an absolute chit show and seldom will they determine its a wolf kill anyway.  I was told a wolf attacked my cow, but it would still be undetermined since they didn't dee the wolf.
I cant even gather my thoughts on this subject, it pisses me off so bad....

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2025, 01:11:12 PM »
Sounds about right…

Getting reimbursed for depredations is small potatoes compared to mother cows that should have 90% pregnancy rates, yet are closer to 60% now due to stress. Or the fact that cattle aren’t gaining weight on summer range because they’re constantly running for their lives instead of grazing.

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 06:22:36 PM »
It was not a King County Judge it was a King County Court Commissioner who was/is appointed by judges to give preliminary rulings on certain cases until a judge is available.

Most liberal news are being intentionally deceptive in how they report the story by using the term "Judge". 

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 07:20:05 PM »
It’s the same story nation wide. The anti agree to a management plan tha when it’s time to remove wolves they challenge the plan they agreed too. Big friggin stall game.
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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 07:45:23 PM »
18 breeding pairs and they'll come up with a management plan.........hmmm......was in the 40's a year or two ago they claimed,  yet there's zero management plan in sight. There are numerous packs right now with no collars. There are people on the inside that will admit they have no idea how many wolves or new packs there are. We by far have the most defunct wildlife management in the nation.

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Re: Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal
« Reply #27 on: Today at 12:06:09 AM »
18 breeding pairs and they'll come up with a management plan.........hmmm......was in the 40's a year or two ago they claimed,  yet there's zero management plan in sight. There are numerous packs right now with no collars. There are people on the inside that will admit they have no idea how many wolves or new packs there are. We by far have the most defunct wildlife management in the nation.

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