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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #315 on: November 15, 2025, 08:06:23 PM »
I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!
Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value.  :twocents:

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.
That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.



Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is  :twocents:

The Yakama Treaty of 1855 has been upheld by the SCOTUS in 2019 that gives the rights to them to not have to pay taxes to travel on WA roads, including registration. If you have a problem with the treaty, your problem is with Congress and President Pierce, not the Yakama nation.


1. There are many things in this world that are legal, or folks have a "right" to do..........many times these things are against most folks idea of being correct/morals/ethics. 

2. I have zero issue with what happened in 1855. How could I have a beef with folks who made decisions they felt were correct at THAT TIME.........long before my great great grandparents were around?

The only folks I have a beef with are in my current timeline, and over-exploit their needs, AND, those who can put a stop to it but seem to turn a blind eye!!!

Again, When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is. Treat and do unto others as you would like to be treated.  Simple.

PS, Did they have taxes on roads in 1855?

There were toll ways on private roads built by private people in 1855.



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Re: More special privileges
« Reply #316 on: November 16, 2025, 05:45:41 AM »
Taxation in 1855, per the googler.  :chuckle:

"The concept of specific "roadway taxes" as they exist today (like fuel taxes or vehicle weight fees) did not exist in their modern form at that time. Modern motor vehicle fuel taxes in Washington are user-based charges that only began to develop much later in the 20th century.
A notable legal point related to this era is that an 1855 treaty with the Yakama Nation preserved their right to travel upon all public highways, which has been interpreted by modern courts to preempt the state's current fuel tax as applied to tribal members importing fuel for reservation sale. This historical context highlights the general nature of taxation during that period compared to contemporary, specific-use taxes."



"Interpreted" is the big word in most ALL native treaty rights. ONLY those who were involved in the writing/signing know intention...AT/FOR THAT TIME.
There is zero chance back then that any of those involved had the foresight to see where the world would be in the future...ZERO!



I get that things were done back then that are now deemed unacceptable, (Were they unacceptable at that time era?) but that was then..........
NOW is different.  I strongly believe that as a whole, folks treat each other much better and have way more respect for other cultures/beliefs/way of life.

To continue to dwell in the past, and use that as an advantage, to have different rights than others, sure seems like "special privileges"(not rights) to me. I'm not saying Assimilation is the answer but maybe try FORGIVING what ALL our forefathers did wrong in the past and learn from it. Try to get along with others who had nothing to do with what happened back then.

If it is equality that is wanted, then folks must want to be equal. If its special rights you want, I do not see that as ever wanting to change for the better.

 :twocents: .......gonna have to change that too "two nickels worth"  :chuckle:


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