collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved  (Read 1246 times)


Offline cjjcb

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2014
  • Posts: 194
  • Location: Over yonder...
  • Groups: BHA
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2025, 10:46:47 AM »
So after the road is complete, the plan appears to be to build multiple open-pit mines. Even putting aside for a moment the "actual" and "potential" environmental impacts of just building/maintaining the road, contemplate the "actual" and "potential" negative impacts of having just one open pit mine, let alone multiples...We all know accidents will happen. if this goes through, don't kid yourselves, they will be taking a huge dump on the whole region with negative impacts that will have to be dealt with for a very long time. 
:bdid:
Bad News...The fog is getting thicker...
And Leon's getting laaaaargerrrrrr...

Trump is a 34x convicted felon. FACT.

Offline pd

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 2579
  • Location: Seattle?
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2025, 11:06:08 AM »
Build the road.  Build out our industrial infrastructure.  Reduce dependency on hostile nations.

Implement strict environmental oversight.  Mitigate damage.  Hold negligent parties accountable.

What is the problem with this?
Si vis pacem, para bellum

Offline Houndhunter

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 3033
  • Location: Continental Divide
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2025, 11:46:46 AM »
 :tup: We need resources now more then ever!

Offline 10thmountainarcher

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 997
  • Location: Buckley
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2025, 12:12:21 PM »
The problem is, most mining companies are owned by foreign entities…

Offline Houndhunter

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 3033
  • Location: Continental Divide
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2025, 12:27:20 PM »
The problem is, most mining companies are owned by foreign entities…

Australia and Canada for Ambler, do you see a problem with those two countries funding?

Offline 10thmountainarcher

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 997
  • Location: Buckley
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2025, 12:47:25 PM »
The problem is, most mining companies are owned by foreign entities…

Australia and Canada for Ambler, do you see a problem with those two countries funding?

I’m not certain the negative impacts of this project will be worth it. This was discussed on meateater radio live the other day. It sounds like the road will be closed to the public and used for transporting ore.

Offline nwmein199

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2015
  • Posts: 1062
  • Location: Wetside
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2025, 01:25:52 PM »
Build the road.  Build out our industrial infrastructure.  Reduce dependency on hostile nations.

Implement strict environmental oversight.  Mitigate damage.  Hold negligent parties accountable.

What is the problem with this?

That is a great idea but the problem the reality is that there is no strict environmental oversight, damage is not mitigated, and negligent parties are not held accountable. Open pit mines have a proven record of having devastating effects environmental effects that are not mitigated or any parties ever held accountable.

How is the foreign owned LLC going to be held accountable once the companies dissolve the LLC after they extract resources, move those resources out of the US, and leave a huge mess?
Will the foreign companies running the LLC give the US the resources they extract?

Offline Houndhunter

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 3033
  • Location: Continental Divide
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2025, 02:13:34 PM »
Regarding foreign companies not selling back the resource, most the refining is going to have to be done internationally by foreign companies no matter who is responsible for taking the ore out of the ground and with no offtakes signed yet I don't see how it's even a valid argument yet.

I do see the concern with holding a foreign investor accountable for any long term problems, leaving a big mess, but your implying things that haven't happened yet. I guess I can dive into the two mining companies to see about there "track record" but I think if anyone is going to be held responsible for it's mining practices it's going to be happen here in the USA.

Offline Chesapeake

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 1046
  • Location: Washougal
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #9 on: Today at 08:44:28 AM »
The greatest treasure America has is our wilderness and undeveloped public lands. Its the greatest treasure we will ever have. Once you develop the land you cant go back. Development, any development, is destruction.

Sure, some development needs to happen, but is it worth the cost? Id say no. 

Offline bearpaw

  • Family, Friends, Outdoors
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 38892
  • Location: Idaho<->Colville
  • "Rather Be Cougar Huntin"
    • http://www.facebook.com/DaleDenney
    • Bearpaw Outfitters
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, F4WM, NWTF, IOGA, MOGA, CCOC, BBB, RMEF, WSTA, WSB
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #10 on: Today at 11:05:40 AM »
Build the road.  Build out our industrial infrastructure.  Reduce dependency on hostile nations.

Implement strict environmental oversight.  Mitigate damage.  Hold negligent parties accountable.

What is the problem with this?


:yeah:  agreed

Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups & quit losing opportunity!

http://bearpawoutfitters.com Guided Hunts, Unguided, & Drop Camps in Idaho, Montana, Utah, and Wash. Hunts with tags available (no draw needed) for spring bear, fall bear, bison, cougar, elk, mule deer, turkey, whitetail, & wolf! http://trophymaps.com DIY Hunting Maps are also offered

Online dwils233

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 619
  • Location: Spokane County
Re: 211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved
« Reply #11 on: Today at 04:51:34 PM »
Build the road.  Build out our industrial infrastructure.  Reduce dependency on hostile nations.

Implement strict environmental oversight.  Mitigate damage.  Hold negligent parties accountable.

What is the problem with this?

That is a great idea but the problem the reality is that there is no strict environmental oversight, damage is not mitigated, and negligent parties are not held accountable. Open pit mines have a proven record of having devastating effects environmental effects that are not mitigated or any parties ever held accountable.

How is the foreign owned LLC going to be held accountable once the companies dissolve the LLC after they extract resources, move those resources out of the US, and leave a huge mess?
Will the foreign companies running the LLC give the US the resources they extract?

Bingo. I'm not anti-miner or anti-mining, but I also don't have rose-colored lenses about the industry and how they frequently operate- They get theirs and leave everyone else holding the bag for the consequences, again and again, without the Government ever being able to stop that from happening. What would make this different?
A promise made is a debt unpaid, and the trail has its own stern code

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Cougar license question by high_hunter
[Today at 09:03:16 PM]


Older SxS shotgun by JDHasty
[Today at 08:53:52 PM]


Bull moose...luck or ??? by MADMAX
[Today at 08:46:37 PM]


What boots? by pickardjw
[Today at 08:38:07 PM]


2025 deer, let's see em! by Antlershed
[Today at 08:33:52 PM]


The Gutless Method by Antlershed
[Today at 08:29:42 PM]


2025 Quality Chewuch Tag by Pathfinder101
[Today at 08:15:44 PM]


As He Lay by X-Force
[Today at 08:05:43 PM]


Drew Pogue Quality by X-Force
[Today at 08:04:01 PM]


2025 15th Annual Hunting-Washington Christmas Gift Exchange by wadu1
[Today at 07:34:53 PM]


Wowzers by Schmalzfam
[Today at 07:07:26 PM]


Where can one find hides from hunters? by Kingofthemountain83
[Today at 06:55:42 PM]


Meet Kumpel by elkboy
[Today at 06:18:56 PM]


Montana Elk Last Ditch Effort by Stein
[Today at 06:15:41 PM]


Aladdin unit 111 mule deer quality tag by Pathfinder101
[Today at 06:10:59 PM]


211 Mile Ambler Road Through The Brooks Range Approved by dwils233
[Today at 04:51:34 PM]


King of the mountain caught sleeping by EnglishSetter
[Today at 03:08:14 PM]


GM 6.6l gas 6 speed vs. 10 speed? by Happy Gilmore
[Today at 01:51:59 PM]


My 2025 Wyoming trip by Falcon
[Today at 01:43:14 PM]


Break my heart - Archery World is closing by pianoman9701
[Today at 10:07:25 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal