"Any Deer" GMU's - Proof of Sex?

[DaNewb]

When hunting in an "Any Deer" GMU do you still have to retain proof of sex while transporting?

[Bob33]

I would say yes.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-413-090

(2) It is unlawful to possess or transport big game animals unless evidence of the sex of the animal remains naturally attached to the carcass until the carcass is processed and/or stored for consumption.
(a) Evidence of sex means the head with antlers or horns attached or penis or testes of male big game animals or the head or udder of female big game animals any of which must be naturally attached to at least one quarter of the carcass or to the largest portion of meat.
(b) For the purpose of this rule, "stored for consumption" means at the final point of storage prior to consumption of the meat.

[Ridgeratt]

I have heard that the game official have you take them back to the site of the kill.

[Tinmaniac]

Not sure why it would matter in an any deer unit.Any deer means male or female,antler points mean nothing.But Washington can f$@k up anything.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Gonna be fun to find the largest piece of meat when they have to be boned out to transport.

[buglebuster]

Gonna be fun to find the largest piece of meat when they have to be boned out to transport.

I just bone a rear quarter out on one whole piece and if it’s a male, you only have to leave a few inches of the dick attached. Super easy. Females I leave part of the udder attached and that’s easy as well

[buglebuster]

Not sure why it would matter in an any deer unit.Any deer means male or female,antler points mean nothing.But Washington can f$@k up anything.

Once you leave the any deer unit, it’s going to matter if you get stopped. It’s a law that’s easy enough to follow. Saved our butts in Idaho once when the warden checked the cooler at camp. We almost didn’t leave it attached when we biked the elk out on the mountain, even with the head and antlers next to the cooler.

[DaNewb]

Gonna be fun to find the largest piece of meat when they have to be boned out to transport.

This is why I was asking...working out how I'm getting next year's out of the woods and I think boning it out in the field will be the easiest...but what about the sex.

I'm not a head hunter so I'd rather not pack the horns out, if I should be so lucky to get a buck instead of a doe.

[buglebuster]

Gonna be fun to find the largest piece of meat when they have to be boned out to transport.

This is why I was asking...working out how I'm getting next year's out of the woods and I think boning it out in the field will be the easiest...but what about the sex.

I'm not a head hunter so I'd rather not pack the horns out, if I should be so lucky to get a buck instead of a doe.

It’s very, very easy to leave the proof of sex attached to a rear boned out quarter. There is videos on YouTube

[ghosthunter]

Several times an old guy in our camp would get a doe tag. He would hang it two or three days depending on weather. Before he started home he would bone the entire deer out.
Put it in a cooler for transport.

A game agent came by and started to give him a hard time about it. The old who is very polite told him that the law says .

Proof of sex until ready for consumption.

Nothing says I cannot cut ,wrap, or eat right here in camp.

The old guy had the proof of sex but not attached.

The Game agent thought about it and left.

[dreadi]

Got your proof right here.


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[Pathfinder101]

Gonna be fun to find the largest piece of meat when they have to be boned out to transport.

I just bone a rear quarter out on one whole piece and if it’s a male, you only have to leave a few inches of the dick attached. Super easy. Females I leave part of the udder attached and that’s easy as well

I know a lot of guys (most probably) leave all the junk hanging there until they get it home.  You only have to leave an inch or two of the penis tube.   

[addicted1]

You need to do it, and if the unit has multiple species of deer. Say WT and MD, you need to keep proof of species. In that case you need to leave the tail attached, since the antlers most won’t be attached to anything.

[furbearer365]

Gonna be fun to find the largest piece of meat when they have to be boned out to transport.

This is why I was asking...working out how I'm getting next year's out of the woods and I think boning it out in the field will be the easiest...but what about the sex.

I'm not a head hunter so I'd rather not pack the horns out, if I should be so lucky to get a buck instead of a doe.

If you shoot a buck, you wont pack the horns out???  That is strange

[addicted1]

 

You should seriously reconsider doing that. For one they are a great way to remember the hunt, any warden will probably think your lying about your harvest if you leave antlers. Lastly they are valuable and you could sell them (not advocating for that, but it’s true). They also make great dog chews if you have a pet. You can also make jewelry, knife handles and many other cool things with them.

[addicted1]

Several times an old guy in our camp would get a doe tag. He would hang it two or three days depending on weather. Before he started home he would bone the entire deer out.
Put it in a cooler for transport.

A game agent came by and started to give him a hard time about it. The old who is very polite told him that the law says .

Proof of sex until ready for consumption.

Nothing says I cannot cut ,wrap, or eat right here in camp.

The old guy had the proof of sex but not attached.

The Game agent thought about it and left.

I’ve been in this situation, but with a buck. Left evidence on for transport back to camp, then boned out, bag and stored in cooler. Long story short, I leave the evidence attached until I am home now. Not worth the hassle.

[luvmystang67]

This is an interesting question.  I have some logic questions now on this.

1) Are you required to bring out the head and/or antlers?  I don't see anywhere that this is actually required.
2) Hunts are not buck or doe hunts, they're antlered and antlerless.  What does the sex of the animal have to do with that, especially in this modern age.  We've seen many antlered does show up on these threads.
3) As far as I can see, you could legally shoot an antlered 3 point doe, leave the antlers, and show back up to camp with an udder on the largest piece of meant and violated ZERO laws.
4) Evidence of sex proves nothing about adhering with the regulation.  In any deer/elk zones, sex shows nothing.  In antlered only areas it shows nothing... even a spike with sub-legal antlers would have the right gender, and you've still broken the law in that case.  This is an outdated rule that makes zero logical sense.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

This is an outdated rule that makes zero logical sense.

Especially in this day and age when genetic testing is available.