Is it a conflict of interest

[Barehunter]

Is it a conflict of interest for game wardens to get paid by a private company to patrol there property.

[Tbar]

No.  Very common in the leo world to use outside the agency contracts. 

[Barehunter]

No.  Very common in the leo world to use outside the agency contracts.

It just does not seem right for a state agency to be funded by the state. to be focusing resources on a private companys property and
not state property. I dont have problem with game wardens checking the private companies property once in awhile but focusing on property
is not fare for the rest of the state.

[jrebel]

No.  Very common in the leo world to use outside the agency contracts.

It just does not seem right for a state agency to be funded by the state. to be focusing resources on a private companys property and
not state property. I dont have problem with game wardens checking the private companies property once in awhile but focusing on property
is not fare for the rest of the state.

It's my understanding that the private land companies (timber companies mostly) will fund entire FTE positions.  These positions don't dedicate 100% of their time to the private, therefore the public is getting some services for free.  Obviously the amount of free services would be dictated by how much time is left over after meeting the obligations of the private company. 

Maybe I'm wrong....but that is my understanding.  It's not like they are taking the limited resource and dedicating it the private.  The private is supplimenting the already limited resource. 

[Barehunter]

When a single hunter is checked multiple times by at least 3 different warden in a span of 3 weeks i think the limited resources are being focused on one small unit and not the rest of the region.

[bigtex]

No.  Very common in the leo world to use outside the agency contracts.

It just does not seem right for a state agency to be funded by the state. to be focusing resources on a private companys property and
not state property. I dont have problem with game wardens checking the private companies property once in awhile but focusing on property
is not fare for the rest of the state.

It's my understanding that the private land companies (timber companies mostly) will fund entire FTE positions.  These positions don't dedicate 100% of their time to the private, therefore the public is getting some services for free.  Obviously the amount of free services would be dictated by how much time is left over after meeting the obligations of the private company. 

Maybe I'm wrong....but that is my understanding.  It's not like they are taking the limited resource and dedicating it the private.  The private is supplimenting the already limited resource.

100% correct. Public and private landowners can and do pay WDFW for enhanced patrol services. This often results in OT pay to the officer so you are actually getting even more coverage then if the contract didn't exist.

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[Knocker of rocks]

WDFW patrols Seahawk games

[bigtex]

WDFW patrols Seahawk games

Another OT contract.

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[Barehunter]

 It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.

[ASHQUACK]

It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.

They do hire their own security. I believe Green Diamond has two full time officers and a couple of part time guys who patrol their permit lands.

[Barehunter]

It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.

They do hire their own security. I believe Green Diamond has two full time officers and a couple of part time guys who patrol their permit lands.

Then why do they need goverment employees

[Knocker of rocks]

The animals are still owned by the public

[jrebel]

Private security can’t enforce game violations.  Heck….they likely can’t enforce lice any laws.   

I’m not sure what your rub is.   I can give you many examples where public employees / agencies are contracted to work or provide services to private entities.   Whether it be OT or more revenue to hire more employees….its the fiscally responsible thing to do.   

[EnglishSetter]

It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.

They do hire their own security. I believe Green Diamond has two full time officers and a couple of part time guys who patrol their permit lands.

Then why do they need goverment employees

Private security doesn't write citations or perform arrests.

[EnglishSetter]

No.  Very common in the leo world to use outside the agency contracts.

It just does not seem right for a state agency to be funded by the state. to be focusing resources on a private companys property and
not state property. I dont have problem with game wardens checking the private companies property once in awhile but focusing on property
is not fare for the rest of the state.

It's my understanding that the private land companies (timber companies mostly) will fund entire FTE positions.  These positions don't dedicate 100% of their time to the private, therefore the public is getting some services for free.  Obviously the amount of free services would be dictated by how much time is left over after meeting the obligations of the private company. 

Maybe I'm wrong....but that is my understanding.  It's not like they are taking the limited resource and dedicating it the private.  The private is supplimenting the already limited resource.

My buddy (recently retired) worked for ODF in Klamath Falls as a state employee, but funded by private landowners.  They primarily concentrated on fires on these private lands, but were available for other (public and private) lands.