Is it a conflict of interest

[Barehunter]

I guess my real issue is they are spending alot of time patrolling private land when there is alot of need for them all over there area.I was checked by 3 different wardens and got 8 pictures on cams of them on days I did not get checked. I did get checked at the gate on sunday
By 2 wardens that was maybe an overtime shift but I dont know.
Maybe i is just me but that is spending alot of time in one small area. I guess I might be off base but I sure thank you guys for your imput.

[bigtex]

It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.

If they are patrolling the area as part of a patrol contract with the landowner then they aren't using govt funds for the patrol. The company has to pick-up the entire cost of the patrol (salary, fuel, etc.)

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[Barehunter]

It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.

If they are patrolling the area as part of a patrol contract with the landowner then they aren't using govt funds for the patrol. The company has to pick-up the entire cost of the patrol (salary, fuel, etc.)

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That does make me feel better that the tax payers are not pay to protect timber companies interest over public land and resources. I do have to admit that seeing game wardens on my cameras and being check often made me alittle butthurt. So thanks guys for setting me straight.

[EnglishSetter]

It really rubs me the wrong way that game wardens are working for private companies when a couple miles away on state land
people are dumping garbage at a great place to shot. private companies should hire there own security. instead of using goverment
employees as security guards.

If they are patrolling the area as part of a patrol contract with the landowner then they aren't using govt funds for the patrol. The company has to pick-up the entire cost of the patrol (salary, fuel, etc.)

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Does make me wonder if private is also funding their pensions though.

[builtfordtough]

Maybe there is a reason why the game wardens are there so often.   Investigating illegal activity, a game wardens presence isnt a bad thing

[Barehunter]

Maybe there is a reason why the game wardens are there so often.   Investigating illegal activity, a game wardens presence isnt a bad thing

I agree that the area should have patrols because the game animals do belong to the people. I was driving in the private property
and was stopped by game warden and we had this very discussion. I was not hunting so they wanted to check that i was not trespassing of
course I had proper paperwork. But doing timber company business just pissed me off.

[hunter399]

Law enforcement does side jobs all the time.
Walmart hires them to stand around.
Banks sometimes hire them during holiday times ect.

No surprise timber company would hire them
Not that I totally agree,but it is common.
Gotta use that pay to play money,to protect there gates and resources.
So if you think about it ,you paid for him to be there.

[Dan-o]

Law enforcement does side jobs all the time.
Walmart hires them to stand around.
Banks sometimes hire them during holiday times ect.

No surprise timber company would hire them

This is how I see it.

[pianoman9701]

It seems like a good investment. We, the state, get paid to patrol concentrated areas of hunters, like timber property. More contact with hunters means more enforcement of the rules protecting our resource. The resource doesn't know where the boundaries are. This affects wildlife populations on private lands, as well.

[Bullkllr]

It seems like there may be two issues of concern here.

1. Game wardens getting contracted and paid by private landowners. Personally I support this. Especially regarding the amount of private timberland in WW.

2. GWs spread too thin already concerning the state land issues. Yes it's a concern, but I'm not sure how much time GWs can devote to dumping on state land, etc. Seems like that might get referred to DNR anyway.

[salmosalar]

It's similar to a venue paying te police at events, I suppose. I think that there is something of a difference in that the police gnerally aren't checking ticket stubbs on behalf of the venue.

I had heard that the WDFW presence on WEYCO land was really high and visable this past fall. WDFW has a smallish budget, they may prefer to do enforcement paid for by WEYCO for budget reasons. I don't know any WDFW officers in that area so I don't have anyone to ask.

I heard that a bull was shot on ground that I have exclusive legal access to. I have seen people trsspassing on it, but did not confront since they may be armed with a firearm and there were 2 of them and 1 of me. I figured that it's no use being right if you are also dead.

I wonder if I saw people on that small timber co. ground and reported them, whether the officer would show up? Maybe I will make a call.

[Tbar]

It's similar to a venue paying te police at events, I suppose. I think that there is something of a difference in that the police gnerally aren't checking ticket stubbs on behalf of the venue.

I had heard that the WDFW presence on WEYCO land was really high and visable this past fall. WDFW has a smallish budget, they may prefer to do enforcement paid for by WEYCO for budget reasons. I don't know any WDFW officers in that area so I don't have anyone to ask.

I heard that a bull was shot on ground that I have exclusive legal access to. I have seen people trsspassing on it, but did not confront since they may be armed with a firearm and there were 2 of them and 1 of me. I figured that it's no use being right if you are also dead.

I wonder if I saw people on that small timber co. ground and reported them, whether the officer would show up? Maybe I will make a call.

Call them,  they will respond. 

[bbarnes]

The private timber companies aren’t paying for their training the taxpayers are just saying

[bigtex]

It seems like there may be two issues of concern here.

1. Game wardens getting contracted and paid by private landowners. Personally I support this. Especially regarding the amount of private timberland in WW.

2. GWs spread too thin already concerning the state land issues. Yes it's a concern, but I'm not sure how much time GWs can devote to dumping on state land, etc. Seems like that might get referred to DNR anyway.

Regarding #2 most of these agreements are OT agreements. So if the agreement wasn't in effect the officer would be off sitting in front of their TV drinking a beer, instead of working OT.

It's a win-win for everyone. The resources get extra patrols/protection, the landowner gets extra patrols, and the officer gets some OT.

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[bigtex]

The private timber companies aren’t paying for their training the taxpayers are just saying

So? The taxpayers are paying for their 171 hours a month schedule (WDFW Officers work 171 hours a month not 160).

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